non-correctable front license plate - cop being @$$hole

[kakacarrotcake]

Originally Posted by guybo

Yes sir?
No, sir
Yes, sir you are right
I will get on it immediately sir, I'm sorry and I'll fix it, sir
Yes, sir
Yes, sir
Thank you sir, have a nice day.

I'm guessing the conversation went NOTHING like that and is why the OP got the ticket and not the warning. Just a guess.

Address an officer with respect? Howbowdah?

[Yardjass]

Originally Posted by funwheeldrive

He came looking for help, and instead you guys are just telling him to bend over. It's not like he was going 100mph on the highway or talking on his cell phone. Front plate laws are ridiculous.

Telling him to can the attitude and stop expecting a law enforcement officer to not enforce the law may not always be polite but it is helping him.


I think I'd have a little more sympathy if the OP didn't have readily available access to several less than $100 brackets that screw right into the tow hook threads so that he doesn't even have to drill holes in his bumper or permanently alter the car in any way. Not everyone is lucky enough to have a car that supports this. Order the damned thing, install it, take pictures to court, and hope they are lenient. If not, oh well. Should have spent the money sooner to save a fine later.

[Pwolf]

Have you got tickets for anything else in the past? If so, that may contribute to the non-correctable. A clean record looks a lot better than someone who's been dinged a few times.

[FR-Sky]

Originally Posted by Pwolf

Have you got tickets for anything else in the past? If so, that may contribute to the non-correctable. A clean record looks a lot better than someone who's been dinged a few times.

I said two times in the previous pages, if you read.
I have been driving for 10 years, this is my first time got pulled over for front license plate. Within the 10 years, not even a warning. My last citation/violation was four years ago. Unless the speeding from FOUR years ago can effect me.

P.S i still insist,the cop is playing stupid.
P.S I said that many times,, its not about money or I broke the law and suck it up.
It is about he could have give me the fix it ticket, instead of the non-correctable one.
If the law said, no front license plate, $100 everybody,no exception,then i shut my mouth and pay with pride. But this is not the case here.

[jasonojordan]

Originally Posted by Yardjass

Telling him to can the attitude and stop expecting a law enforcement officer to not enforce the law may not always be polite but it is helping him.


I think I'd have a little more sympathy if the OP didn't have readily available access to several less than $100 brackets that screw right into the tow hook threads so that he doesn't even have to drill holes in his bumper or permanently alter the car in any way. Not everyone is lucky enough to have a car that supports this. Order the damned thing, install it, take pictures to court, and hope they are lenient. If not, oh well. Should have spent the money sooner to save a fine later.

When I got mine I just zip tied the plate to the lower grill and they were fine with it here. Just have not taken the time to get the relocation.

[Xxyion]

Originally Posted by FR-Sky

I said two times in the previous pages, if you read.
I have been driving for 10 years, this is my first time got pulled over for front license plate. Within the 10 years, not even a warning. My last citation/violation was four years ago. Unless the speeding from FOUR years ago can effect me.

P.S i still insist,the cop is playing stupid.

I have to agree. However i think recently they've been really harsh on sports cars, especially modded ones. I always drive a bit slower and try to be as quiet as i can now whenever i see a cop. Not sure if theres just a really big crackdown to get as many tickets as possible but somethings going on.

Not sure if this might be a strictly Bay Area only thing.

[sdlynx]

From my experience, if you get a violation of veh-5200a on a parked car, they are almost always correctable, but if you get it in conjunction with a moving violation, they'll ding you, because they can say you knowingly violated the law.

Basically, if they can show...

1.Evidence of fraud or persistent neglect;
2.The violation presents an immediate safety hazard;
3.The violator does not agree to, or cannot, promptly correct the violation.

That will be tough to defend depending on your specific situation.

Good luck.

[Cole]

In this thread:

OP knowingly breaks the law and calls the officer an asshole for enforcing the law.

You gotta pay to play.

[Pwolf]

Originally Posted by FR-Sky

I said two times in the previous pages, if you read.

Originally Posted by Pwolf

Have you got tickets for anything else in the past?

Originally Posted by FR-Sky

My last citation/violation was four years ago. Unless the speeding from FOUR years ago can effect me.

Yes it can. I think DMV records go back 7 years, at least? Officer could've seen your past history and deemed it necessary to give a non-correctable ticket.

[FR-Sky]

Originally Posted by Pwolf

Yes it can. I think DMV records go back 7 years, at least? Officer could've seen your past history and deemed it necessary to give a non-correctable ticket.

I believe its 36 months.

[shiumai]

After you get this resolved, I suggest you get the stock front license plate bracket and perform this mod:
http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=35261

It's held on by magnets, looks 100% OEM, goes on and off in 3 seconds, needs no drilling and is nicely centered (for those who dislike offset plate brackets).

I put it on when parked in certain cities that I know ticket for no front plate. Usually it's in my trunk.

[Dadhawk]

Yet no one has answered the question, what's the big deal with having the front plate?

I've lived in states that required, it and when I did I had one. When I live in states that don't, I don't have one (or a vanity one).

No one seems to have a problem with the rear one, don't see any threads on "I'm going to leave my front plate on, but not going to put the back one on".

For those in the US, at least it's not as bad as European ones. You have options....

[finch1750]

Originally Posted by FR-Sky

my point is he is playing stupid, $25 dollar fix it ticket and he wants me to pay couple hundred now. I asked him why it isnt correctable,,his attitude is like fking , "oh, i am gonna write non correctable,what you gonna do?" He keep saying that by signing this doesnt mean its guilty, blah blah blah. Wouldnt you be pissed too?

Originally Posted by Pwolf

Yes it can. I think DMV records go back 7 years, at least? Officer could've seen your past history and deemed it necessary to give a non-correctable ticket.

Originally Posted by FR-Sky

I believe its 36 months.

Points stay for 3 years but I wonder if the record itself goes back longer since insurance and background checks ask for 5 years usually

[FR-Sky]

Originally Posted by finch1750

Points stay for 3 years but I wonder if the record itself goes back longer since insurance and background checks ask for 5 years usually

I am using Allstate, according to my memory, 18months for 1 point deduction. I can double check for you since I am going to all-state tomorrow.