Trac cntrl light supposed to blink when off?

[Ashikabi]

Originally Posted by Twinz

So the video I linked is me, in my car, launching near the top of the tach....with no blinking lights.

I'm not sure what exactly causes the lights to flash but since I posted in that other thread from a year ago I have had the light flash during autocross but I didn't notice any other affects. I do not pedal dance, just hold the button for 3 seconds. Maybe it's different on the track or with better tires etc. As far as I can tell from personal experience, the light just flashes sometimes during slides but doesn't intervene

[justatroll]

Originally Posted by Ashikabi

Lol you tag me into this thread, bitch about old shit, then tell me to fuck off? You're far more mature than I could ever be

Originally Posted by Ashikabi

When it's off, it's off. There is no maneuver you can do that will make it activate.

Do you or do you NOT believe that the trac & VSC system can respond when it is 'deactivated' or 'disabled'?

THAT was the topic of the thread.
You clearly believed (incorrectly) that it would NOT respond when off.

Have you changed your opinion on that matter or not?

I merely pointed out facts, and used you as an example of a person who does not understand the system.

YOU started with the insults first NOT me.

[Twinz]

Maybe there is a difference between the model years/ software?

The only twin I got out of shape a lot was a BRZ I co-drove at Dixie a few years ago. The car's owner had an alignment shop set the car up with toe-out on the rear and the throttle was almost unusable with the back end kicking out like the car had 800hp.

He got the alignment fixed between day 1 and day 2, and the car was great then. However, neither of us noticed any blinking lights in real time or on the over-the-shoulder video we reviewed afterwards.

[Ashikabi]

Originally Posted by justatroll

Do you or do you NOT believe that the trac & VSC system can respond when it is 'deactivated' or 'disabled'?

THAT was the topic of the thread.
You clearly believed (incorrectly) that it would NOT respond when off.

Have you changed your opinion on that matter or not?

I merely pointed out facts, and used you as an example of a person who does not understand the system.

YOU started with the insults first NOT me.

I have yet to have it respond with anything more than a flashing light as started in the above post. At the time of the thread I was mentioned from, I had never experienced any affect of any kind once traction control was turned off. And you started the insults in post 18 on page 2

[justatroll]

While remaining on topic: I have had the system disabled with the 3 second button press and had it come back on and spin the car in the snow/ice.

During the spin, the lights were blinking and when the car came to a stop the VSC & TC lights were OFF (meaning re-enabled)

This thread has others' experiences about this topic (and more examples of Ashikabi being a prick):
http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=107910

BTW - on my car you CAN disable VSC&TC when moving at any speed, while others have questioned this.
Just a data point for noting differences.

[Ashikabi]

Originally Posted by justatroll

While remaining on topic: I have had the system disabled with the 3 second button press and had it come back on and spin the car in the snow/ice.

During the spin, the lights were blinking and when the car came to a stop the VSC & TC lights were OFF (meaning re-enabled)

This thread has others' experiences about this topic (and more examples of Ashikabi being a prick):
http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=107910

BTW - on my car you CAN disable VSC&TC when moving at any speed, while others have questioned this.
Just a data point for noting differences.

It's very flattering how obsessed you are with my comments. Most people just let it go or forget about me etc... but you are something special. You are proof that my work on the internet is both noticed and will leave a legacy of butthurt across the world and one day, the stars. Thank you. Autographs are available for 7$. 5 and 10 dollar bills only, no change.

[Twinz]

Mine can be disabled at any speed as well. Although when moving, nothing happens for a few seconds...then both lights come on. When stopped, the TCS light comes on the moment you press down and the other light comes on after a few seconds of holding it down.

[kevman_101]

Spinning the tires won`t light it up, Spinning out won`t light it up, but if you flick it aggressively or get bumps while turning and the inside rear wheel loses enough traction, it will dab the brakes to activate the rear diff like a limited slip... Only it would be better not to sometimes. The torsen works if both tires have grip, if one gets lifted, it works as an open diff. To counter this, the system applies brakes to the wheel with no grip to give the other wheel the power and also lights up the traction light on the dash. It can cause so weird problems I imagine at track speeds, and I think the better the tires, the more often it happens as it unloads the inside wheels even more. I get it to blink at 3000 rpm at 1/4 throttle on a street I turn on to everyday because of humps crossing the road.

I haven`t had a single problem while autocrossing with the 3 seconds button press, but they are 2nd gear courses only.

[Norinradd]

Originally Posted by Twinz

So the video I linked is me, in my car, launching near the top of the tach....with no blinking lights.

Doesnt happen from A launch to often its more so when im sideways around a bumpy bend or in a drift when i flick the car
. I have noticed it happen with many others on youtube

[Norinradd]

Originally Posted by Twinz

http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showp...1&postcount=82

I didn't notice an issue when I ran my car stock recently. ^

None of the other Twins I have driven over the years have shown this problem either. (Most of them were BRZ's, but not all)

I have seen drivers completly spin both FR-S's and BRZ's with no pedal dance.

I'm not arguing what level of intervention may or may not be happening with just the hold-button-down method, but the cars seem to respond to inputs without protest....even when those inputs are bad ideas that cause spins.

...and I don't remember any of the lights blinking at me when I held down the button long enough to get both lights on.

Your car stayed relatively straight that whole run. In relation to front and back wheels. If your tail was whipping out wveey corner like 45 +degrees i have a feeling shed have blinked at ya

[Twinz]

Originally Posted by kevman_101

Spinning the tires won`t light it up, Spinning out won`t light it up, but if you flick it aggressively or get bumps while turning and the inside rear wheel loses enough traction, it will dab the brakes to activate the rear diff like a limited slip.

This sounds like the most likely scenario. I actually had issues on the tail of the dragon with my STU 350Z unloading the inside tire enough to make the Quaife diff go open. (On some of the tighter, well-banked corners)

I totally get what Toyota/Subaru were addressing here. I may actually be thankful for it in some conditions. If/when it becomes a problem, I will look at alternatives that do not involve an elaborate routine, and disabling EBD. (I think I can remove the rear sway bar in CS)

Originally Posted by Norinradd

Your car stayed relatively straight that whole run. In relation to front and back wheels. If your tail was whipping out wveey corner like 45 +degrees i have a feeling shed have blinked at ya

If my car gets out 45 degrees, the run is already shot...and it's my own fault, before any electronic response the car might have.