YES! AWD Turbo BRZ in the works for sure!!!

[ZILLA]

Originally Posted by BlaineWasHere

Did you hear? They are making a 6-wheel drive, quad turbo H6 BRZ!!! OMGZ!!!

I heard it was 8-wheel drive....

[TheRipler]

Originally Posted by Dave-ROR

See I think the RX is less ugly than the XT. And the interior of the XT.. wow.. that was a 80s nightmare lol

The XT was unique inside, for sure. I don't know if I could ever get used to that steering wheel.

[ichitaka05]

Originally Posted by Snoopyalien24

Ichi fugu is watching you D:

Lol tbh, he has a point. Subaru cars don't win any "looking" award... Except GM chassis... but that's all opinion

[Snoopyalien24]

Originally Posted by ichitaka05

Lol tbh, he has a point. Subaru cars don't win any "looking" award... Except GM chassis... but that's all opinion

I like them because they feel Japanese, like, it has an aggressive Function>Form look and feel to it. Like your car

Not to fancy, it's just there to do it's job. That can't be said about ALL Subies but most

[ichitaka05]

Originally Posted by Snoopyalien24

I like them because they feel Japanese, like, it has an aggressive Function>Form look and feel to it. Like your car

Not to fancy, it's just there to do it's job. That can't be said about ALL Subies but most

Thanks, I love my Impreza... I have so much mods I wanna do to it... but not enough $$$$ to do em all lol


I think, I'm going off-topic, my bad lol

[Snoopyalien24]

Originally Posted by ichitaka05

I think, I'm going off-topic, my bad lol

Nice pic.

And it's okay, the OP was kinda lame news (no offense) and the rest of the posts are trollin lol's

[zigzagz94]

Originally Posted by rice_classic

They do offer this car with more power and AWD:




while simultaneously wishing it was something that Subaru ALREADY OFFERS.

What you don't understand that SOME people want a small relatively light turbo AWD COUPE? (The same super small market segment that didn't buy Turbo AWD DSM's when they were brand new but love them now that they're used and cheap.)

Subaru doesn't "already offer" it for a reason...and no a WRX/STi is not that.

A bigger 5 door hatch/4 door sedan does not equal miata sized coupe.

They don't offer it because those cars don't sell more than 5% of the total production.

[industrial]

Originally Posted by zigzagz94

What you don't understand that SOME people want a small relatively light turbo AWD COUPE? (The same super small market segment that didn't buy Turbo AWD DSM's when they were brand new but love them now that they're used and cheap.)

Subaru doesn't "already offer" it for a reason...and no a WRX/STi is not that.

A bigger 5 door hatch/4 door sedan does not equal miata sized coupe.

They don't offer it because those cars don't sell more than 5% of the total production.

Is this even possible? A small light turbo awd coupe? Does anyone even make one? I bet if you add awd and a turbo system to the BRZ you'd add enough weight to tip 3000#. You'd also ruin the balance of the car by having to move the engine forward, adding weight on top of the motor with turbo hardware and chucking the beautiful manual transmission for one of Subaru's awd boxes. Correct me if I'm wrong but that sounds like a WRX coupe which is cool and all but you are engineering from the wrong platform. It would be FAR easier to make the wrx a 2 door (which would sell to very few people) than to make the brz awd and turbo.

Instead of wanting more power and AWD, I think it'd be sweet if the BRZ weighed 2500#.

[dori.]

I have the feeling that if they wanted to build a light awd coupe, then it woudn't be based on the ZC6, they'd have to engineer a new chassis.

I dunno if that's worthwhile (remember the twins are funded by Toyota money). As suggested, an Impreza 2 door would be better.

[SnapOv3st3r]

Originally Posted by sysfailur

The engine has already been turbo charged by aftermarket. And turbo AND supercharged on the same car. If they have room to do that, I'm sure Subaru and Toyota can figure it out too. They only have a few billion dollars more resources than those aftermarket companies.

Who has turbocharged it? I know PTuning is working on a turbo setup, but have yet to see an FA actually turboed. HKS has the Supercharger already on it.

[Zadkiel]

I'd say there is no way possible that it would be AWD. The architecture is designed around the FR layout and getting the engine sitting as low as possible. You'd have to redesign almost every mounting point and suspension point on the entire front end of the chassis. "But I could do that with a few brackets like when they swap an RB into a 240!" Yes, but it also needs to meet safety standards that your backyard engineered swap doesn't have to.

I don't even understand why you'd want AWD anyway. It flies in the face of what this car's mission is. Adding AWD and a turbo would push it into STi territory as far as price, and at that point why not just get the STi?

If there's going to be an STi version, which I don't think there should be, then it should be in keeping with the mission statement of the car. At most there should be 250hp, slightly different spring and damper tuning, lighter weight parts(Steel->Aluminum. Aluminum->CF), and a slightly bigger brake package. Anything more than that is rediculous and unnecessary.

[zigzagz94]

Originally Posted by Zadkiel

Adding AWD and a turbo would push it into STi territory as far as price, and at that point why not just get the STi?

This point always gets thrown out whenever this topic gets raised... it's like the default response and it kind of annoys me

Here's the answer:

Park a BRZ next to an STi...and you'll see that these people don't want a huge 5 door wagon/4 door sedan. They want a small sexy coupe with turbo and awd. I know it's impossible for us to understand that they're completely comfortable with the less practical/capable choice, but that's what they want. Some people just want a small sexy coupe and have no need for the utility of a wagon or sedan. I can appreciate that but:

Problem is Subaru will never build such a car. All they have to do is ask Mitsubishi how well their last turbo awd eclipses sold. 90% + of all cars sold were FWD. The Turbo AWD cars were super expensive and nobody bought them when they were new. They're only popular because of the used market.

There is no reason for Toyobaru to spend wads of cash re-engineering the BRZ platform to shoehorn AWD into it for such a miniscule demographic.

[Zadkiel]

Originally Posted by zigzagz94

This point always gets thrown out whenever this topic gets raised... it's like the default response and it kind of annoys me

Here's the answer:

Park a BRZ next to an STi...and you'll see that these people don't want a huge 5 door wagon/4 door sedan. They want a small sexy coupe with turbo and awd. I know it's impossible for us to understand that they're completely comfortable with the less practical/capable choice, but that's what they want. Some people just want a small sexy coupe and have no need for the utility of a wagon or sedan. I can appreciate that but:

Problem is Subaru will never build such a car. All they have to do is ask Mitsubishi how well their last turbo awd eclipses sold. 90% + of all cars sold were FWD. The Turbo AWD cars were super expensive and nobody bought them when they were new. They're only popular because of the used market.

There is no reason for Toyobaru to spend wads of cash re-engineering the BRZ platform to shoehorn AWD into it for such a miniscule demographic.

I bring up price because you never really want 2 cars competing at the same price point in the same market. That's why Subaru would never think of building an AWD, turbo BRZ.

Like you said, I guess I just don't understand why you'd pay the same amount as one vehicle to get a less powerful, more impractical, and more than likely, similair handling vehicle with less utility. Then again, for the same as a BRZ I can get a base WRX. I guess the RWD and handling are what sets this apart from the more powerful WRX in my mind.

[zigzagz94]

Originally Posted by Zadkiel

Like you said, I guess I just don't understand why you'd pay the same amount as one vehicle to get a less powerful, more impractical, and more than likely, similair handling vehicle with less utility.

People do stupid stuff all the time...

but in this case it probably all comes down to looks/size/styling

you'd be surprised at how many car purchases are based on those criteria alone