Front seat removal woes, things I dealt with and you shoould be aware of..

[OICU812]

I have the E10 rev torque socket and good tools. I'm starting to wonder if these bolts are Friken welded in!! Thought I'd check for those that have removed front seats am I missing something here or do these things just take some serious battling to even get loose? Don't want to strip shit here and really hoping I don't need I get heat on em!!

I can't find anything stating real issues or that these bolts are reverse thread so I'm like wtf here...

Any insight be appreciated b4 I go nuts..

[OICU812]

Nope just tight! Now a new damned problem, never ever let a dealer touch shit so mad right now. Get to last inner boot on drivers side to find an already stripped torque head!! How the fuck am I gonna get that out!!!!!

Dealer put in a drivers heated pad and obviously some wing but got gorilla on this. Man!!!!

[PoWn3d_0704]

I guess they are pretty renowned for being at a million ft lbs of torque. Good luck, man.

[userjack6880]

One tip I was given whenever I encountered something stuck - tighten it (gently) first. Sometimes it does the trick and the screw/bolt/nut will loosen.

[OICU812]

Originally Posted by userjack6880

One tip I was given whenever I encountered something stuck - tighten it (gently) first. Sometimes it does the trick and the screw/bolt/nut will loosen.

Unfourtenetly it's hard to express how tight these are there would be no further tightening lol.

Anyhow I picked up a fractional socket bolt extractor kit.

Ones things for certain if I can get these all out I will NOT be putting these garbage torque bolts back in gonna find me some M10x1.25 bolts with a conventional head. It's an absolute wonder why they'd use such a dinky bolt head design for such a high stress point with limited access to add to drama.

[diss7]

I managed to get the front two undone with a power bar, but couldnt get the power bar into a good position to get the back two.

It was just the reasoning I was looking for to go buy an impact driver.

30 mins later, bang bang, out they came.

[userjack6880]

Originally Posted by OICU812

Unfourtenetly it's hard to express how tight these are there would be no further tightening lol.

Anyhow I picked up a fractional socket bolt extractor kit.

Ones things for certain if I can get these all out I will NOT be putting these garbage torque bolts back in gonna find me some M10x1.25 bolts with a conventional head. It's an absolute wonder why they'd use such a dinky bolt head design for such a high stress point with limited access to add to drama.

The point isn't to actually tighten the bolts any more. It's to move it in the direction of tightening, and even if it doesn't move any, it should loosen something up. I've seen it work with lug nuts, suspension bolts, right down to the precise screws in a laptop. If something won't loosen, I'll try to tighten it, even a little, and then it'll loosen easily. Just give a try. See if it works. A little tip that was given to me from a guy who worked on oil rigs for years and turned computer tech. Some of the things he did there still apparently carry on into the physical bits of computers.

[OICU812]

Yes thanks I know what you're talking about grew up on a large grain farm as a kid so had a wrench and orders in hands by 12 years of age lol then my initial entry to oil and gas was a fitter so I'm very familiar with such things. Summary I've done that and yes you're right it does work, in some cases there was absolutely no choice on these had to go extractor route. If you happen to ever go at these bolts you'll see how tight they are and how fragile the tops are I guarantee it.

Anyhow got these things out! Had to go with a 5/16ths then a 1/4" Irwin Socket bolt extractor and lots and lots of heat to bolt, orange in fact. So glad got em out what a hassle. Seats now can get aside and work can commence. I'm going to look into some standard type bolts ASAP and never consider those torques again.

[OICU812]

Some pics to see how mangled these easily got. Remember this was with heat and quality sockets seated to and they still stripped forcing use of extractors

These were actually the "best shape ones"



The saving tool

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Seats out finally!!

[kevinnivek8877]

Well I think its time I did the same since been more than a year since I last vacuumed in there... passengers leave behind the strangest debris in my car.

[dkstylezz]

was wondering if you can provide the place you bought the tool? I stripped my bolt for my seat rail and its a pita to get out failed attempts to get it out all day.

Originally Posted by OICU812

Some pics to see how mangled these easily got. Remember this was with heat and quality sockets seated to and they still stripped forcing use of extractors

These were actually the "best shape ones"

was wondering if you can provide the place you bought the tool? I stripped my bolt for my seat rail and its a pita to get out failed attempts to get it out all day.




The saving tool

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Seats out finally!!

[Mazikowski]

Originally Posted by dkstylezz

was wondering if you can provide the place you bought the tool? I stripped my bolt for my seat rail and its a pita to get out failed attempts to get it out all day.

I ran into the same issue (except it was me who stripped it, not the dealer). I used an Irwin bolt extractor socket like he has pictured. I purchased it at either an auto parts store or a hardware store... both sold the sockets but only one had the correct size.

EDIT:
You just have to get it on the bolt head and apply some downward pressure when you start turning it so the spiral will bite in to the bolt head. I had to actually put the bolt in a vise to get the socket off of it.