Front alignment woes - Toyota GR86, 86, FR-S and Subaru BRZ Forum & Owners Community

empower-auto · 06-03-2013, 07:55 PM

Here's the situation .. I have my car on HSD coilovers with camber plates as well as whiteline KCA416 16mm upper camber bolts.

The car is not very low, no hellaflush action and I CANNOT get more than -2.0 camber in the front. I need 2.5 badly. It seems I am running out of options. The camber plates and the bolts are MAXED.

Anyone had any better luck? The rear is almost no better but I got the desired alignment with my Cusco LCA's.

CSG Mike · 06-03-2013, 08:01 PM

@robispec can help if you want to keep your current ride height.

Have you considered lowering more? You'll get more camber (to a degree).

We had no problem hitting -3 with our Tein SRCs, and we still have room to get more.

TylerLieberman · 06-03-2013, 08:01 PM

New coilovers?

I run stance and get about -4 degrees camber and I can still move the two inner Allen bolts in further for more

empower-auto · 06-03-2013, 08:04 PM

I can go lower but I do not want to. I am losing too much suspension travel then, and the wheel will probably hit the inner fender when auto-crossing.

CSG Mike · 06-03-2013, 08:09 PM

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Originally Posted by empower-auto

I can go lower but I do not want to. I am losing too much suspension travel then, and the wheel will probably hit the inner fender when auto-crossing.

Are your camber plates installed on the correct sides? How much are you dropped?

The bolts alone should already have you at more than -1

Racecomp Engineering · 06-03-2013, 08:14 PM

My guess is your plates are on backwards like the other guy. He had HSDs as well...maybe they're marked incorrectly? Can you take a pic?

- Andy

derek1ee · 06-03-2013, 09:26 PM

not try to bring this off topic but is there a different between left/right the stock top hat? What about the orientation of the stock hat (red dot facing some direction?)

empower-auto · 06-04-2013, 02:35 PM

plates are on properly as far as I can see

DragynVyrus · 06-04-2013, 02:54 PM

If I remember correctly(99% sure I just haven't looked myself yet) the fronts are Mac style struts right? If so you can get rid of the camber bolt and slot the top hole on the strut that bolts to the knuckle and reinstall the stock bolt. Bit more labour intensive and a bit more of a pain to set up but it works. Just another option if you are correct and everything is installed right.

celica73 · 06-04-2013, 03:09 PM

I agree with the folks that think something is fishy here. I've got stock springs and struts in front, but use two camber bolts per side (OEM in the top hole, SPC in the bottom) and have about -2.3 degrees.

No camber plates or lowering needed.

GTM_Challenge · 06-04-2013, 03:13 PM

Just take some pics of your camber plates and post them up

f0rge · 06-04-2013, 06:33 PM

i got to -1.4 on bolts alone (dialed it back to -1.1) and i'm only lowered 1.4 inches. to think that camber plates can only get another 0.6 doesn't seem right at all...

empower-auto · 06-04-2013, 08:39 PM

will toss up some pics tonight

King Tut · 06-05-2013, 12:07 PM

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Originally Posted by empower-auto

will toss up some pics tonight

Pics look good. I am also convinced you reversed the install of the camber plates as another person did.

06-03-2013, 07:55 PM	#1
empower-auto Kouki-Monster Join Date: May 2012 Drives: 2013 Scion FR-S Location: Saskatoon, SK Posts: 1,137 Thanks: 11 Thanked 562 Times in 261 Posts Mentioned: 6 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Front alignment woes Here's the situation .. I have my car on HSD coilovers with camber plates as well as whiteline KCA416 16mm upper camber bolts. The car is not very low, no hellaflush action and I CANNOT get more than -2.0 camber in the front. I need 2.5 badly. It seems I am running out of options. The camber plates and the bolts are MAXED. Anyone had any better luck? The rear is almost no better but I got the desired alignment with my Cusco LCA's. __________________ Rich Anderson EMPOWER AUTO

06-03-2013, 08:01 PM	#3
TylerLieberman Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2011 Drives: '24 GR86 Location: Arizona Posts: 3,686 Thanks: 658 Thanked 3,363 Times in 1,584 Posts Mentioned: 16 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	New coilovers? I run stance and get about -4 degrees camber and I can still move the two inner Allen bolts in further for more __________________ Old 2013 FRS Build Thread (SOLD) Hakone 86 GR Build Thread (SOLD)

06-03-2013, 08:04 PM	#4
empower-auto Kouki-Monster Join Date: May 2012 Drives: 2013 Scion FR-S Location: Saskatoon, SK Posts: 1,137 Thanks: 11 Thanked 562 Times in 261 Posts Mentioned: 6 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	I can go lower but I do not want to. I am losing too much suspension travel then, and the wheel will probably hit the inner fender when auto-crossing. __________________ Rich Anderson EMPOWER AUTO

06-04-2013, 02:35 PM	#8
empower-auto Kouki-Monster Join Date: May 2012 Drives: 2013 Scion FR-S Location: Saskatoon, SK Posts: 1,137 Thanks: 11 Thanked 562 Times in 261 Posts Mentioned: 6 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	plates are on properly as far as I can see __________________ Rich Anderson EMPOWER AUTO

06-04-2013, 08:39 PM	#13
empower-auto Kouki-Monster Join Date: May 2012 Drives: 2013 Scion FR-S Location: Saskatoon, SK Posts: 1,137 Thanks: 11 Thanked 562 Times in 261 Posts Mentioned: 6 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	will toss up some pics tonight __________________ Rich Anderson EMPOWER AUTO

06-03-2013, 08:01 PM	#2
CSG Mike Join Date: Jul 2012 Drives: S2000 CR Location: Orange County Posts: 14,562 Thanks: 8,942 Thanked 14,211 Times in 6,854 Posts Mentioned: 970 Post(s) Tagged: 14 Thread(s)	@robispec can help if you want to keep your current ride height. Have you considered lowering more? You'll get more camber (to a degree). We had no problem hitting -3 with our Tein SRCs, and we still have room to get more.

06-03-2013, 08:14 PM	#6
Racecomp Engineering Join Date: Nov 2011 Drives: 2016 BRZ, 2012 Paris Di2 & 2018 STI Location: Severn, MD Posts: 5,517 Thanks: 3,541 Thanked 7,412 Times in 3,032 Posts Mentioned: 310 Post(s) Tagged: 9 Thread(s)	My guess is your plates are on backwards like the other guy. He had HSDs as well...maybe they're marked incorrectly? Can you take a pic? - Andy

06-03-2013, 09:26 PM	#7
derek1ee Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2013 Drives: BRZ/FRS/STI/M3 Location: WA Posts: 173 Thanks: 5 Thanked 17 Times in 16 Posts Mentioned: 1 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	not try to bring this off topic but is there a different between left/right the stock top hat? What about the orientation of the stock hat (red dot facing some direction?)

06-04-2013, 02:54 PM	#9
DragynVyrus Member Join Date: Mar 2012 Drives: FRS, MR2 Location: Edmonton Posts: 33 Thanks: 0 Thanked 8 Times in 7 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	If I remember correctly(99% sure I just haven't looked myself yet) the fronts are Mac style struts right? If so you can get rid of the camber bolt and slot the top hole on the strut that bolts to the knuckle and reinstall the stock bolt. Bit more labour intensive and a bit more of a pain to set up but it works. Just another option if you are correct and everything is installed right.

06-04-2013, 03:09 PM	#10
celica73 Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2012 Drives: '13 BRZ / '11 Outback / '06 Tundra Location: Durham NC Posts: 510 Thanks: 6 Thanked 155 Times in 104 Posts Mentioned: 4 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	I agree with the folks that think something is fishy here. I've got stock springs and struts in front, but use two camber bolts per side (OEM in the top hole, SPC in the bottom) and have about -2.3 degrees. No camber plates or lowering needed.

06-04-2013, 03:13 PM	#11
GTM_Challenge Join Date: Aug 2012 Drives: On track Location: Chicago Posts: 527 Thanks: 120 Thanked 285 Times in 166 Posts Mentioned: 5 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Just take some pics of your camber plates and post them up

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