Titanium Exhaust Wraps? - Toyota GR86, 86, FR-S and Subaru BRZ Forum & Owners Community

Shift86 · 02-25-2016, 12:13 PM

To be honest, I've never even heard of them until now. How well do these actually work?

https://www.massdrop.com/buy/dei-tit...st-wrap-bundle

DustinS · 02-25-2016, 12:22 PM

Extremely well. I can get out from a decent drive (with Turbo) and place my hand on the header and it's warm at best. The header wrap is very effective.

You will need to be careful though. It can trap moisture and cause Rusting. There is also a possibility of certain parts cracking due to the added heat, though I haven't ever experienced that myself.

go_a_way1 · 02-25-2016, 12:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Shift86

To be honest, I've never even heard of them until now. How well do these actually work?

https://www.massdrop.com/buy/dei-tit...st-wrap-bundle

Yeah I hear good things about them, but TBH its all pretty much the same stuff. If you are wrapping a header budget for a replacement one day.

Icecreamtruk · 02-25-2016, 12:49 PM

Mind you that while the header wrap makes it so it radiates less heat into the engine bay it is not magically making the heat go away, it is keeping it inside the header. It might give you very small gains as keeping the heat inside the header will increase the speed of the gasses flowing thru and possibly scavenge more out of the cylinders. But it will certainly put a hell of a lot more stress on the header and expect it to completely disintegrate over time so yeah, save up for a replacement if you decide to wrap it.

jawn · 02-25-2016, 12:51 PM

It's way nicer than the traditional kind of exhaust wrap. Way less itchy to use.

I'm not worried about rust. These are stainless headers, and moisture doesn't really stick around if you just drive the car frequently. I could see it being a concern if you park your car for a season at a time and you were wrapping a cast iron header. But I don't, so I won't.

KoolBRZ · 02-25-2016, 07:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Shift86

To be honest, I've never even heard of them until now. How well do these actually work?

https://www.massdrop.com/buy/dei-tit...st-wrap-bundle

The difference is night and day between this wrap and the glass fiber wraps. There is no soaking required, It only smokes a tiny amount the first day, rather than clouds of smoke for weeks. It doesn't stink all the time, the odor goes away after the first day or two. Glass fiber wraps suck, these don't.

CSG Mike · 02-25-2016, 07:13 PM

You won't get the itchy scratchy stuff with the Titanium wrap. Make sure it's tight, and overlap consistently. COnsistency is key, and use safety wire to ensure the ends don't fray or start unraveling.

A great alternative is ceramic coating, if you don't want to deal with wrap, or have tight spaces that can't support the extra thickness of a wrap.

CSG now offers ceramic coating as well; cost is dependent on the piece.

churchx · 02-25-2016, 08:27 PM

Nice to find out that one can get Ace's goodies right away now without going to other shops to add coating.

Poodles · 02-26-2016, 01:31 AM

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Originally Posted by CSG Mike

You won't get the itchy scratchy stuff with the Titanium wrap. Make sure it's tight, and overlap consistently. COnsistency is key, and use safety wire to ensure the ends don't fray or start unraveling.

A great alternative is ceramic coating, if you don't want to deal with wrap, or have tight spaces that can't support the extra thickness of a wrap.

CSG now offers ceramic coating as well; cost is dependent on the piece.

Doesn't just have to be an alternative. Fairly common in the turbo world to ceramic coat (inside and out) and also wrap/blanket.

Keep in mind also that the deterioration of the metal isn't from moisture, it's from oxygen. Watch a blacksmith work red hot metal and the scale that forms on the surface, same process. Terribly complex process that I'm dumbing down as scale can be both a bad and good thing (good if it's non-porous and high density as it's a protective layer). Stainless creates chromium rich scale, but this all depends on the grade of stainless, etc. Gets complex fast...

Muaddib · 02-26-2016, 02:00 AM

Personally i would rather go with ceramic coating. However it is not cheap but the result is quite good. I remember i had my downpipes coated back in my mr2, supra days.

FRSBRZGT86FAN · 02-26-2016, 02:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Shift86

To be honest, I've never even heard of them until now. How well do these actually work?

https://www.massdrop.com/buy/dei-tit...st-wrap-bundle

Just so you know it's cheaper to buy this on ebay:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/DEI-010127-2..._I33Nw&vxp=mtr

Nigori · 11-20-2020, 04:38 PM

Anyone know how much wrap is needed for the Tomei EL Headers?
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sygfrid · 12-07-2020, 07:29 AM

Another option that allows the pipes to breathe is enclosing them in an insulator like DEI's Form-A-Shield
https://www.designengineering.com/fo...d-42in-x-48in/

02-25-2016, 12:13 PM	#1
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DustinS Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2014 Drives: 2013 Ultramarine FR-S Location: Springfield, MO Posts: 1,950 Thanks: 2,539 Thanked 1,423 Times in 806 Posts Mentioned: 31 Post(s) Tagged: 3 Thread(s)	Extremely well. I can get out from a decent drive (with Turbo) and place my hand on the header and it's warm at best. The header wrap is very effective. You will need to be careful though. It can trap moisture and cause Rusting. There is also a possibility of certain parts cracking due to the added heat, though I haven't ever experienced that myself. __________________

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Icecreamtruk Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2015 Drives: Track preped NA FRS Location: Montreal, Canada Posts: 987 Thanks: 1,056 Thanked 681 Times in 405 Posts Mentioned: 12 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Mind you that while the header wrap makes it so it radiates less heat into the engine bay it is not magically making the heat go away, it is keeping it inside the header. It might give you very small gains as keeping the heat inside the header will increase the speed of the gasses flowing thru and possibly scavenge more out of the cylinders. But it will certainly put a hell of a lot more stress on the header and expect it to completely disintegrate over time so yeah, save up for a replacement if you decide to wrap it.

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jawn Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2015 Drives: 2015 CWP BRZ Limited Location: NOVA Posts: 2,800 Thanks: 1,801 Thanked 3,946 Times in 1,757 Posts Mentioned: 105 Post(s) Tagged: 7 Thread(s)	It's way nicer than the traditional kind of exhaust wrap. Way less itchy to use. I'm not worried about rust. These are stainless headers, and moisture doesn't really stick around if you just drive the car frequently. I could see it being a concern if you park your car for a season at a time and you were wrapping a cast iron header. But I don't, so I won't.

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CSG Mike Join Date: Jul 2012 Drives: S2000 CR Location: Orange County Posts: 14,562 Thanks: 8,942 Thanked 14,211 Times in 6,854 Posts Mentioned: 970 Post(s) Tagged: 14 Thread(s)	You won't get the itchy scratchy stuff with the Titanium wrap. Make sure it's tight, and overlap consistently. COnsistency is key, and use safety wire to ensure the ends don't fray or start unraveling. A great alternative is ceramic coating, if you don't want to deal with wrap, or have tight spaces that can't support the extra thickness of a wrap. CSG now offers ceramic coating as well; cost is dependent on the piece.

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churchx Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2015 Drives: 2014 GT86 Location: Latvia, Riga Posts: 4,334 Thanks: 698 Thanked 2,086 Times in 1,436 Posts Mentioned: 53 Post(s) Tagged: 1 Thread(s)	Nice to find out that one can get Ace's goodies right away now without going to other shops to add coating.

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Muaddib Mentat Join Date: Jun 2013 Drives: 2013 Scion FRS 6MT Location: Vancouver Posts: 542 Thanks: 666 Thanked 358 Times in 198 Posts Mentioned: 4 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Personally i would rather go with ceramic coating. However it is not cheap but the result is quite good. I remember i had my downpipes coated back in my mr2, supra days.

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