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Shift86 02-25-2016 12:13 PM

Titanium Exhaust Wraps?
 
To be honest, I've never even heard of them until now. How well do these actually work?

https://www.massdrop.com/buy/dei-tit...st-wrap-bundle

DustinS 02-25-2016 12:22 PM

Extremely well. I can get out from a decent drive (with Turbo) and place my hand on the header and it's warm at best. The header wrap is very effective.

You will need to be careful though. It can trap moisture and cause Rusting. There is also a possibility of certain parts cracking due to the added heat, though I haven't ever experienced that myself.

go_a_way1 02-25-2016 12:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Shift86 (Post 2559605)
To be honest, I've never even heard of them until now. How well do these actually work?

https://www.massdrop.com/buy/dei-tit...st-wrap-bundle

Yeah I hear good things about them, but TBH its all pretty much the same stuff. If you are wrapping a header budget for a replacement one day.

Icecreamtruk 02-25-2016 12:49 PM

Mind you that while the header wrap makes it so it radiates less heat into the engine bay it is not magically making the heat go away, it is keeping it inside the header. It might give you very small gains as keeping the heat inside the header will increase the speed of the gasses flowing thru and possibly scavenge more out of the cylinders. But it will certainly put a hell of a lot more stress on the header and expect it to completely disintegrate over time so yeah, save up for a replacement if you decide to wrap it.

jawn 02-25-2016 12:51 PM

It's way nicer than the traditional kind of exhaust wrap. Way less itchy to use.

I'm not worried about rust. These are stainless headers, and moisture doesn't really stick around if you just drive the car frequently. I could see it being a concern if you park your car for a season at a time and you were wrapping a cast iron header. But I don't, so I won't.

KoolBRZ 02-25-2016 07:03 PM

I've tried several exhaust heat wraps
 
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Originally Posted by Shift86 (Post 2559605)
To be honest, I've never even heard of them until now. How well do these actually work?

https://www.massdrop.com/buy/dei-tit...st-wrap-bundle

The difference is night and day between this wrap and the glass fiber wraps. There is no soaking required, It only smokes a tiny amount the first day, rather than clouds of smoke for weeks. It doesn't stink all the time, the odor goes away after the first day or two. Glass fiber wraps suck, these don't.

CSG Mike 02-25-2016 07:13 PM

You won't get the itchy scratchy stuff with the Titanium wrap. Make sure it's tight, and overlap consistently. COnsistency is key, and use safety wire to ensure the ends don't fray or start unraveling.

A great alternative is ceramic coating, if you don't want to deal with wrap, or have tight spaces that can't support the extra thickness of a wrap.

CSG now offers ceramic coating as well; cost is dependent on the piece.

churchx 02-25-2016 08:27 PM

Nice to find out that one can get Ace's goodies right away now without going to other shops to add coating.:w00t:

Poodles 02-26-2016 01:31 AM

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Originally Posted by CSG Mike (Post 2560314)
You won't get the itchy scratchy stuff with the Titanium wrap. Make sure it's tight, and overlap consistently. COnsistency is key, and use safety wire to ensure the ends don't fray or start unraveling.

A great alternative is ceramic coating, if you don't want to deal with wrap, or have tight spaces that can't support the extra thickness of a wrap.

CSG now offers ceramic coating as well; cost is dependent on the piece.



Doesn't just have to be an alternative. Fairly common in the turbo world to ceramic coat (inside and out) and also wrap/blanket.


Keep in mind also that the deterioration of the metal isn't from moisture, it's from oxygen. Watch a blacksmith work red hot metal and the scale that forms on the surface, same process. Terribly complex process that I'm dumbing down as scale can be both a bad and good thing (good if it's non-porous and high density as it's a protective layer). Stainless creates chromium rich scale, but this all depends on the grade of stainless, etc. Gets complex fast...

Muaddib 02-26-2016 02:00 AM

Personally i would rather go with ceramic coating. However it is not cheap but the result is quite good. I remember i had my downpipes coated back in my mr2, supra days.

FRSBRZGT86FAN 02-26-2016 02:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Shift86 (Post 2559605)
To be honest, I've never even heard of them until now. How well do these actually work?

https://www.massdrop.com/buy/dei-tit...st-wrap-bundle


Just so you know it's cheaper to buy this on ebay:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/DEI-010127-2..._I33Nw&vxp=mtr

Nigori 11-20-2020 04:38 PM

Anyone know how much wrap is needed for the Tomei EL Headers?
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sygfrid 12-07-2020 07:29 AM

Another option that allows the pipes to breathe is enclosing them in an insulator like DEI's Form-A-Shield
https://www.designengineering.com/fo...d-42in-x-48in/


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