VW US recall over emissions test cheating

[MokSpeed]

My apologies. My comments weren't meant to be a direct attack at anyone in particular or their beliefs. Just wanted to point out the fact that every person pollutes in one way or another. Some just choose to live a more environmentally friendly lifestyle and there's nothing wrong with that. The issue in this case isn't so much that, but the horrible business ethics demonstrated by VW.

[Ultramaroon]

Originally Posted by MokSpeed

My apologies. My comments weren't meant to be a direct attack at anyone in particular or their beliefs. Just wanted to point out the fact that every person pollutes in one way or another. Some just choose to live a more environmentally friendly lifestyle and there's nothing wrong with that. The issue in this case isn't so much that, but the horrible business ethics demonstrated by VW.

I didn't read it as such. As a mechanical engineer, I struggle with the idea that my very profession is based on environmental upheaval. Using fossil fuels to mine and refine all manner of substances into machines that do more of the same. The whole industrial revolution, really, in a geological blink of an eye has turned everything upside down. /thread jack.

[ATaraxias]

Originally Posted by MokSpeed

"Wow this is horrible and wrong!"


1 week later


"Just installed my catless header and front pipe. Love the sound!"

E85 is a wonderful solution to a whole heap of problems, including this one.

[mav1178]

Originally Posted by ATaraxias

E85 is a wonderful solution to a whole heap of problems, including this one.

E85 is a solution to.... a diesel problem?

[fang_gt86]

Originally Posted by ATaraxias

E85 is a wonderful solution to a whole heap of problems, including this one.

There's no solution. Unless we all going back to riding horses. lol

[Ultramaroon]

Originally Posted by ATaraxias

E85 is a wonderful solution to a whole heap of problems, including this one.

Look at the total energy budget required to create 0.85 gal ethanol from the point of planting seeds onward; extracting & shipping raw materials, creating fertilizer, watering, spraying, harvesting, shipping, processing...

Ok, so switchgrass. Whatevs, Dubya. He can subsidize Deez Nuts.

Originally Posted by mav1178

E85 is a solution to.... a diesel problem?

NOx & shit from going catless and other problems.

Originally Posted by fang_gt86

There's no solution. Unless we all going back to riding horses. lol

It's not out of the realm of possibility. There are pretty big rural areas on the planet where it's still the norm.

[Tcoat]

Originally Posted by fang_gt86

There's no solution. Unless we all going back to riding horses. lol

The number of horses required to replace all the vehicles currently in use would be an ecological disaster that would make fossil fuels look like heaven. The land required, feed and waste disposal would all be near impossible. Hell, the methane and nitrates alone would probably do us in.

[Ultramaroon]

Originally Posted by Tcoat

The number of horses required to replace all the vehicles currently in use would be an ecological disaster that would make fossil fuels look like heaven. The land required, feed and waste disposal would all be near impossible. Hell, the methane and nitrates alone would probably do us in.

First the thing that kills most of us, then horses for all the rest.

[Tcoat]

Originally Posted by Ultramaroon

First the thing that kills most of us, then horses for all the rest.

Now that would work
<insert Planet of the Apes gif here> damned IPad data use.

[soulreapersteve]

Originally Posted by fang_gt86

There's no solution. Unless we all going back to riding horses. lol

Today on Pimp My Horse

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[EAGLE5]

I have a stable. Fuck all y'all.

[Ultramaroon]

Originally Posted by soulreapersteve

Today on Pimp My Horse

lulz - mini fridge

[Juvenile]

[Captain Snooze]

Originally Posted by Ultramaroon

The only other rational answer is population decline.

I have this circular thought that often runs around my head.

Why do we need a strong economy? So we can consume more stuff. Consuming more stuff creates a strong economy.