Installed/How-To: 2014 Forester XT OEM Oil Cooler(pics!)

[Jaden]

Originally Posted by Kimsey47

So for a engine newb like me, what I take from this is that the oil heats up faster in this configuration; yet stays at a cooler temp during hard driving? That math doesn't add up to me so can someone explain what this system is doing?

The other oil cooling kits I viewed seemed to make more sense in that you're running the oil through a radiator type device to air cool it during hard driving... So I guess I just don't understand how this "wet" system works.

Not knocking the system, just trying to improve my horrible mechanical knowledge!

Thanks!

Responded with even thinking how many posts were in the thread, this has already been answered...

Jaden

[Kiske]

Originally Posted by mit_peid

You're saying that thing is only $7.50?!?!


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Originally Posted by mit_peid

Looks like the bolt itself is $22 MSRP and you might have gotten an early version of the WRX sandwich plate that isn't on their website yet?

http://www.mishimoto.com/stainless-s...apter-m20.html

$15!

[M1K3]

Originally Posted by Kiske

$15!
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No Freaking way! Did u just contact Mishimoto directly?

[Kiske]

Originally Posted by M1K3

No Freaking way! Did u just contact Mishimoto directly?

Yes via the support form> get a ticket> email. My rep was Zach Tempone FWIW. Explained to him what I was doing and how I'd love to add their oil cooler to my setup. 1 week later...

[mit_peid]

I know this isn't $15 but isn't something like this similar and will clear the OEM oil cooler lip (plus it is thermostatic).

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[rice_classic]

Originally Posted by sickmint79

did i gain anything by choosing 10w30 vs 5w30?

is what i lost, my understanding to be more friction at cold temp startups now, from 40/50 degrees upwards (spring/summer/fall) meaningful?

what would i lose by going 5w40?

Look at the oil's tech sheet where it lists kinematic viscosity at 40C and 100C. Some oil brands may vary because extra viscosity modifiers are used and others have very little variation, Amsoil as one example, has very little among their Sig series.

Compare Amsoil as a point of reference.
The 0w-30 has a 100C viscosity of 10.5 cSt
The 5w-30 has a 100C viscosity of 10.4 cSt
The 10w-30 has a 100C viscosity of 10.4 cSt

Now what about at cold(der) temps? 40C
0w-30 = 58.2
5w-30 = 59.9
10w-30 = 62.3

So with that being said, I'd definitely choose the 0w-30 but the difference between a 5w and 0w is very small.

[sickmint79]

Originally Posted by rice_classic

Look at the oil's tech sheet where it lists kinematic viscosity at 40C and 100C. Some oil brands may vary because extra viscosity modifiers are used and others have very little variation, Amsoil as one example, has very little among their Sig series.

Compare Amsoil as a point of reference.
The 0w-30 has a 100C viscosity of 10.5 cSt
The 5w-30 has a 100C viscosity of 10.4 cSt
The 10w-30 has a 100C viscosity of 10.4 cSt

Now what about at cold(der) temps? 40C
0w-30 = 58.2
5w-30 = 59.9
10w-30 = 62.3

So with that being said, I'd definitely choose the 0w-30 but the difference between a 5w and 0w is very small.

so no need to rush out and replace my 10w30 with one of the others? and thanks for the info!

now for your next trick, if you could tell me how to make this go away for good... http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=30879

[wbradley]

Having a tough time accepting that it will cost me $800 thereabouts to get a name brand oil cooler shipped here excluding install.

Found this on Ebay:

http://www.ebay.ca/itm/New-13-row-10...55646f&vxp=mtr

Aside from a lack of supplier support and apparently no mounting hardware for the radiator (I can figure that out), any reason I shouldn't buy this?

[sickmint79]

adding some more to my post 474 - http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showp...&postcount=474

i went to gingerman today, it got up to around 80 or so



it's amusing that you can tell by oil temps that my last 2 sessions were nice and my others were full of trains and messes. who did not stick it out through the last 2 sessions of the day, thankfully.

my oil temp (sandwich) and data temp (obd2, wherever that sensor is) are off, i think putzing around the gauge was higher? it certainly seems to be the case here. max oil 251. but if you look at my gauges (pressure then oil)




the oil seems higher than my max of 251 in the data. i thought i saw it getting near 255 maybe + but def not 260 or over. in any case here's a snapshot from the helmet cam vid:



this is from the long straight at gingerman, so top out 3rd then here i'm topping out 4th. i look to be about 7000+ rpms. my understanding is the desired pressure would be 80 psi, but i don't seem to be in too bad of shape at what appears to be around 60 psi.

[Ultramaroon]

Is that a block8head pod? Is it a good fit? Issues?

[sickmint79]

Originally Posted by Ultramaroon

Is that a block8head pod? Is it a good fit? Issues?

yes it is; kinda; i'm butterfingers and horrible at installing things, i have a slight fitment issue in that i think the power/sensor cables for both gauges take up more space then the pod had an area cut away for, so it's not fitting as nicely as it could. i am lazy and it's not flying around on a race track though so i live with it. good enough for me to not touch. wouldn't hesitate to buy again.

[Ultramaroon]

Originally Posted by sickmint79

yes it is; kinda; i'm butterfingers and horrible at installing things, i have a slight fitment issue in that i think the power/sensor cables for both gauges take up more space then the pod had an area cut away for, so it's not fitting as nicely as it could. i am lazy and it's not flying around on a race track though so i live with it. good enough for me to not touch. wouldn't hesitate to buy again.

cool. Thanks for the heads-up. Not a showstopper. 10/10 will do same.

[xkalelx]

tl:dr Is this cooler a donut style oil-to-water cooler as described in the following link?

http://www.mocal.co.uk/FAQ.html

Anyone noticing oil pressure drops as a result of running this?

TIA

[sickmint79]

i'm under the impression ours doesn't change the oil flow as much as that one? not sure.

in any case i have my oil pressure in post 486 which i think is pretty good for the temp and condition.