2015 Ford Focus ST: A Bigger, More Fun Fiesta - Ignition Ep. 131

[gramicci101]

Originally Posted by BRZZZZZZZZZZ

Fun cars, I am trying to get my girlfriend into a FiST or FoST for auto x since she is tiring of her Jeep.

Yeah, I imagine her jeep doesn't do too well at autoX.

[BRZZZZZZZZZZ]

Originally Posted by gramicci101

Yeah, I imagine her jeep doesn't do too well at autoX.

Nah she just doesn't want to drive my Miata because its "gay" and there's no way in hell shes getting the keys to my BRZ...

[Rampage]

Originally Posted by SUB-FT86

FWD isn't too bad when it is a lightweight sporty chassis. I hate the fact that modern hot hatches feel higher though

The seating in most small cars is intentionally higher because it give the driver the illusion that they are in a bigger car. We live i the era of the SUV and pick-up truck. Most people freak out if they are in a small car and traveling among those behemoths. But let them sit higher and they feel more in control and less intimidated by the monsters that cruise out highways. It is an illusion but it is one that auto manufacturers have discovered works to sell small cars.

On a more practical note, taller small cars are also easier to get in and out of.

[tahdizzle]

Dat Drift Button Doe!

[Sideways&Smiling]

Don't care about the ST, but will care when it goes AWD as the RS!

[SUB-FT86]

I have a feeling the AWD one will feel like a heavy beast since the ST is around 3240 lbs. AWD plus more content will make it a near 3500 lb hatch which sounds stupid for a hatch.

[Sideways&Smiling]

Originally Posted by SUB-FT86

I have a feeling the AWD one will feel like a heavy beast since the ST is around 3240 lbs. AWD plus more content will make it a near 3500 lb hatch which sounds stupid for a hatch.

Evo X curb weight: 3440 lbs

Current WRX STI curb weight: 3386-3458 lbs

Seems roughly in line with the current two most popular AWD budget performance cars.

[SUB-FT86]

Originally Posted by Sideways&Smiling

Evo X curb weight: 3440 lbs

Current WRX STI curb weight: 3386-3458 lbs

Seems roughly in line with the current two most popular AWD budget performance cars.

I think a Fiesta RS would be a better car as it would weigh 2900-3050 lbs with AWD and more power while being a bit cheaper. Sounds like a win if they do it.

[2016 Camaro SS]

I think I'm going to keep my eyes on the 2016 Mazdaspeed 3. Skyactiv 2.5L turbo + AWD??? Going to be a pretty fun pocket rocket, but who knows if the AWD rumor is true.

[gramicci101]

He doesn't want an FRS because he would tinker with it until he broke it, so he likes the Focus ST better.

That makes sense. That's what makes a good driver's car; the desire not to play with it.

[SUB-FT86]

Originally Posted by gramicci101

He doesn't want an FRS because he would tinker with it until he broke it, so he likes the Focus ST better.

That makes sense. That's what makes a good driver's car; the desire not to play with it.

It's funny he said that because in a video 3 years ago he said to the tuners out there not to screw the FR-S up as he found it perfect in stock form.

[rice_classic]

Auto-journalism.

Fancy term for car salesman. There is no "journalism" in auto-journalism. There could be, but there isn't. Not the way the industry functions. You simply won't last a day if you maintain journalistic integrity.

Anyone making a living in auto journalism in the USA should start every video with, "I make my money painting this car in a positive light... now let's continue to the review!"

Like with any rule, there's always exceptions but...


edit: I wouldn't mind being a professional (paid) automotive journalist but then having to be dishonest all the time... I may as well work for Comcast, Monsanto or Dupont.

[humdizzle]

british journalism > american journalism.

[TylerLieberman]

He never used the word "perfect" to describe the FR-S; he used the word "balanced".

And I agree.. The FR-S is very balanced out of the box. I think what he's saying is that for the money, the ST offers a more versatility. I agree with that as well, as I'll take the ST on any trip over the FR-S for a handful of reasons.

I think some people on this forum just can't stand it when somebody reviewing their car chooses another car over it. Everybody was raving about his FR-S review a couple years back and said how great of a review it was, and great of a journalist he was... Now that he's said that he prefers another car over it, people start questioning his integrity within his reviews lol.

I mean, it is what it is. Different people have different opinions, but it's comical to watch and read the comments/reactions from people on this forum whenever somebody says they don't like something particular about the FRS/BRZ.