2015 Ford Focus ST: A Bigger, More Fun Fiesta - Ignition Ep. 131 - Toyota GR86, 86, FR-S and Subaru BRZ Forum & Owners Community

JPxM0Dz · 05-13-2015, 12:04 PM

[ame="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2qsovZ1BbYc"]2015 Ford Focus ST: A Bigger, More Fun Fiesta - Ignition Ep. 131 - YouTube[/ame]

TylerLieberman · 05-13-2015, 03:02 PM

Great car, but between the head unit issues and the numerous turbo/wastegate issues, plus the insanely horrid customer service at various Ford dealerships, we'll (my wife and I) will never own a Ford again.

humdizzle · 05-13-2015, 05:59 PM

its still wrong wheel drive

TylerLieberman · 05-13-2015, 11:10 PM

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Originally Posted by humdizzle

its still wrong wheel drive

Cool story bro.

A fwd civic type r just lapped the Nurburgring faster than the GTR you supposedly own.

You may be excused now.

fatoni · 05-14-2015, 12:58 AM

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Originally Posted by TylerLieberman

Cool story bro.

A fwd civic type r just lapped the Nurburgring faster than the GTR you supposedly own.

You may be excused now.

dont come in here with your valid albeit anecdotal reasons against a ford and then bring up objective evidence negating every fanboys fwd vs rwd "argument." this is ft86 club. we'll have none of that

humdizzle · 05-14-2015, 03:13 AM

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Originally Posted by TylerLieberman

Cool story bro.

A fwd civic type r just lapped the Nurburgring faster than the GTR you supposedly own.

You may be excused now.

?? got a link. last i saw the civic type r ran a 7:50. Stock '09 GTR did a 7:29.

strat61caster · 05-14-2015, 04:44 AM

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Originally Posted by humdizzle

its still wrong wheel drive

[ame="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ZN1aP1o_m8"]Drivers Republic - Driving Techniques - Controlling a FWD car with Martin Rowe - YouTube[/ame]

humdizzle · 05-14-2015, 05:38 AM

not sure what that video is proving. you can slide any car. with fwd you are throwing the weight forward, chucking it in, and dragging the back end around.

from a performance standpoint fwd is at the bottom. there are other reasons why fwd and focus st is a good car.... since there is no driveshaft you get more leg room., and cost is less as there are less moving parts, better efficiency as less is lost thru the drivetrain. The whole 'better in snow' thing is bogus, depends more on having a good winter tire than your drivetrain.

SUB-FT86 · 05-14-2015, 07:29 AM

FWD isn't too bad when it is a lightweight sporty chassis. I hate the fact that modern hot hatches feel higher though

SUB-FT86 · 05-14-2015, 07:37 AM

Also I just realize this car has similar acceleration to a BRZ/FR-S. So I'm guessing folks are gonna say that a minivan will smoke this car too?

Purdue FR-S · 05-14-2015, 10:36 AM

I fail to understand why the Focus ST "works outta the box" versus the FR-S.

SUB-FT86 · 05-14-2015, 10:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Purdue FR-S

I fail to understand why the Focus ST "works outta the box" versus the FR-S.

My guess? Torque and Practicality. He prefers the FR-S platform though.

Purdue FR-S · 05-14-2015, 10:50 AM

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Originally Posted by SUB-FT86

My guess? Torque and Practicality. He prefers the FR-S platform though.

Yeah, I understand to some extent. . . but you can't mod your way to a 4 door hatch. In which case, there is no real comparison for the two.

As others have stated, the similar 0-60 times makes me wonder why you'd want more torque, if you are satisfied with the Focus ST performance characteristics.

Either way, glad that the Focus ST exists

BRZZZZZZZZZZ · 05-14-2015, 11:06 AM

Fun cars, I am trying to get my girlfriend into a FiST or FoST for auto x since she is tiring of her Jeep.

05-13-2015, 03:02 PM	#2
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05-14-2015, 05:38 AM	#8
humdizzle Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2015 Drives: 2018 GT3 / 2015 M3 Location: Missouri Posts: 290 Thanks: 102 Thanked 316 Times in 119 Posts Mentioned: 5 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	not sure what that video is proving. you can slide any car. with fwd you are throwing the weight forward, chucking it in, and dragging the back end around. from a performance standpoint fwd is at the bottom. there are other reasons why fwd and focus st is a good car.... since there is no driveshaft you get more leg room., and cost is less as there are less moving parts, better efficiency as less is lost thru the drivetrain. The whole 'better in snow' thing is bogus, depends more on having a good winter tire than your drivetrain. __________________ 2018 GT3 6MT 2021 M2 Comp DCT Past: 458 Italia, R35 GTR, E36/E46/F80 M3, 335i, Scion FRS

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