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Old 04-20-2015, 06:27 PM   #29
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Redline it as much as you want. Just don't do it like 50 times a day. I probably do it 20 times.
If that were true no car would survive more than a few track days where you spend nearly 20 minutes straight above 5k rpm and you're >7k rpm around 10 instances per lap (at my local) or ~100 times in that 20 minute session.

And it's typical to do that 5x in a track day... I've been above 7k rpm >500x in a single day. My car is at 37k miles with the only issue being a coil pack that needed replacing.

If this engine can't handle that long term expect this car to get dropped by thousands of people.
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I was told that my typical fourth-gear highway driving (uphill most of the way, full of dumbasses) would blow my engine up.
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Old 04-20-2015, 06:50 PM   #31
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Not the water temp, the OIL. Give it a good 15-20 minutes before dropping the hammer.
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In my car it averages less than 10 minutes for the oil to warm up when driving slowly (less than 1/3 throttle application).

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Old 04-20-2015, 07:17 PM   #32
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So it safe to red line from 1st,2nd,3rd or 4th gear once everyday ?
The limit is 14 times per day. After that your warranty is voided.
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I took the faceplate off, used a black sharpie and covered the red stuff. Instant nine grand redline!
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Old 04-20-2015, 08:27 PM   #34
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I took the faceplate off, used a black sharpie and covered the red stuff. Instant nine grand redline!
Video DIY please.
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Video DIY please.
I just broke the faceplate with a hammer. The car does suck after all, why take care of it.
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Old 04-20-2015, 10:42 PM   #36
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So it safe to red line from 1st,2nd,3rd or 4th gear once everyday ?
If your temps are up to operating temps. Not just coolant gauge on dash but oil. And such.
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Old 04-20-2015, 11:26 PM   #37
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In my car it averages less than 10 minutes for the oil to warm up when driving slowly (less than 1/3 throttle application).

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Somewhere I read @CSG Mike say the oil temp lagged several minutes behind the water temp as the engine warmed up. Is that your experience?
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Somewhere I read @CSG Mike say the oil temp lagged several minutes behind the water temp as the engine warmed up. Is that your experience?
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Adding to above points...

I have the Pivot Dual Gauge (review link), and having driven it for a few days in Southern California weather I can safely say the following:

- Ambient starting temps are around 25-30C for both fluids. Car is garaged and ambient air temps are around 55-60F.
- 30 second warmup + ~90 seconds of < 3000 RPM driving gets the needle to the first mark on dash temp gauge. At this point the Pivot gauge reads 60C water temp and around 50C oil temp.
- A total of around 4 minutes is needed for easy driving to get the thermostat to open up around ~70C. The oil temp stays around 60-65C
- Largest delta between coolant and oil temps was around 20 degrees, when the coolant hits 80 but oil temp still is barely 60-ish

Results may vary, but it's safe to say that with easy driving + 30 second warmup, you're looking at roughly 5 seconds for each degree centigrade increase in oil temp from a completely cold engine. Coolant may take longer to warm up if you have the AC on.

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Carista shows about five minutes to "normal" operating temps as well.
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15 minutes for me before water temp stabilizes in the morning. When it gets there it's rock solid. I try to wait an extra few minutes after the pedal dance engages before I start the wankfest.
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15 minutes for me before water temp stabilizes in the morning. When it gets there it's rock solid. I try to wait an extra few minutes after the pedal dance engages before I start the wankfest.
Just don't rest your hand on the knob, causes all kinds of problems.
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