The Best Performing Rear Wing for the FRS/BRZ/FT86

[Tcoat]

Originally Posted by Tromatic

OP will not be deterred by you ignorant nattering nabobs. OP might want to ask for a refund from his school, though, if he was taught to make claims about his product before he has actual tested hardware.

I know he won't and as much as I joke I would love to see him succeed. The whole "I ran about 2% of the trials I should have and know it is the best in the world" thing is what I find sad!


Nabobs? Really?

[Tromatic]

Originally Posted by Tcoat

Nabobs? Really?

[Caspeed]

Originally Posted by Tromatic

OP will not be deterred by you ignorant nattering nabobs. OP might want to ask for a refund from his school, though, if he was taught to make claims about his product before he has actual tested hardware.

Mr. Nabob to you Sir.

[N234]

Originally Posted by LucidMomentum

As an I&C Engineer, we try to make life easier for you guys. But noooo, the buttons aren't the right size and the alarms aren't the right color... :p

As an integrator, who makes the slightly impractical design function while fielding the many valid and many trivial complaints if the operators, I hope you both destroy each other.

[Gunman]

Originally Posted by Caspeed

It must be those "Swan Neck" wing mounts!!!

"swan neck", is definitely the way to go, for the pylon design.

http://www.mulsannescorner.com/rearwingLMPCFD2009.html

[Caspeed]

Originally Posted by Gunman

"swan neck", is definitely the way to go, for the pylon design.

http://www.mulsannescorner.com/rearwingLMPCFD2009.html

While some teams may use them on purpose built race cars where there is better airflow to the wing.

The Swan Neck statement was a sarcastic remark regarding how the cantilevered wing design being proposed is going to apply downforce to the entire car...which it can't.

[stevesnj]

I say go for it, if you don't succeed then go back to the drawing board. In the USA you can form an LLC. online and you're on your way. People will definitely learn if you have a good product or not. Take the criticism you will get it and prepare for the consequences if all goes wrong.If you have the time patience and money I say give it a whirl. Good luck

[mav1178]

Originally Posted by stevesnj

In the USA you can form an LLC...

A LLC will also limit your liability in case you get sued.

-alex

[Dimman]

Originally Posted by MRE

Oh, my mistake. I've misunderstood the meaning of that phrase then. I am an engineer undergraduate at UBC. I attend autocross, HPDE, and chump racing. 2 years spent in an engineering club that competes in the FSAE.I cannot think of way to qualify the knowledge I've gained in studying aerodynamics, vehicle dynamics, suspension dynamics, and brake dynamics, outside of school and club time—touche to that then. I'd like to hope that the success of this product will be qualification to the knowledge I needed to have and used to design this.

You have anything done on any local street cars?

[Dimman]

Also, for what it's worth, I know one of the UBC FSAE alumni ended up working for Ferrari's F1 team.

UBC's engineering department is pretty solid. Makes me wonder what the final results of this wing will be. And he has mentioned a physical testing plan he will be working on once he has a prototype.

[Caspeed]

OP;

Don't give up. But also, don't go around making sweeping statements about things that you have yet to fully understand. The engineer that taught me much of what I know would have not even have discussed tech stuff with you because you already have all the answers. The 1st step in learning is realizing that you don't know.

Suggested reading as a primer....The entire Caroll Smith series of books, Smokey Yunick's Power Secrets, and to learn about driving, The Technique Of Motor Racing by Piero Taruffi.
The last one is a bit old school but has alot of good info about driving fast on public streets E.G."Millie Milia".

You will find as you re-read them over the years you will begin to understand things that you missed the 1st time around.

Best of luck!

[retoocs]

Originally Posted by Caspeed

What are the odds that someone on a computer running sims is going to discover something that has been missed by 1 century of Aviation Engineers, another century of Automotive Engineers, Billions/Trillions of dollars spent in research, rolling road wind tunnels, and the knowledge of Adrian Newey, and DaVinci have not been able to find. Pretty slim I'd say. IMHO

Adrian Newey has forgotten more things in one day than the OP has learned in his entire school career.

Cocky/arrogant newbie engineers typically will weed themselves out of the industry or learn to STFU and listen.

[Koa]

the guy keeps talking about knowledge this, knowlege that..

when the real secret is being able to learn. He'll learn, or have a terrible time and burn out. Either way, I got my popcorn ready

[paulca]

Originally Posted by retoocs

Adrian Newey has forgotten more things in one day than the OP has learned in his entire school career.

Cocky/arrogant newbie engineers typically will weed themselves out of the industry or learn to STFU and listen.

I started out as a cocky engineer newbie and I'm still cocky.