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MRE 02-15-2015 02:51 PM

The Best Performing Rear Wing for the FRS/BRZ/FT86
 
Hey FT86 Owners and Enthusiasts!

I'm currently working on creating an aftermarket rear wing for the FRS/BRZ/FT86. Currently there are already many choices out there, but I want to stand out from the rest by producing one that has ultra high performance. I started out 2 years ago when I wanted improved lap times on the track through aero mods. After studying the subject and researching the many companies that sell performance aero parts, I've concluded that many of them wouldn't give me the performance gains I was looking for. My background is engineering from UBC, and I took full advantage of the resources and knowledge I have access to and started from scratch in designing my own rear wing.

After over 80 different iterations designs and CFD testing, this rear wing is the result.

S C I O N F R S Photos by lolersk8ter | Photobucket

Design for the wing elements and position is set.
The wing mount for the final product will adopt this look, with perhaps some adjustments. The base of the mount is also up for design changes.
So far, there are 3 different endplate designs:
  • #1 is the most conservative, cosmetically. Produces the least downforce. Best used at 0° to 15°
  • #2 produces more downforce much more efficiently, with higher downforce and less drag. This is the by-product of endplate #3. Designed to be used at 25°
  • #3 is the the direct by-product from the experimental wing in the simulation. Produces over more 10% downforce compared to the shorter endplate.
The only thing finalized so far are the wing element profiles and positioning with one another. I have suppliers and manufacturers ready. The only thing left for me now is to spread word of what I have and collecting interests. Creating a website is also desired too. I plan on expanding this wing to other car chassis with different mount designs. In the near future, I will also work on a diffuser, undertray, and diffuser for the FRS that will yield the highest downforce gain in the market.

I hope this doesn't go against this forum's rules as advertising. Please express your thoughts and opinions. Ask questions if you have any. Any feedback is appreciated.

I hope to get CFD results of the wing on the car soon.

Lonewolf 02-15-2015 04:18 PM

You might get better responses in the exterior/aero subforum...

RockRoll 02-15-2015 04:47 PM

Not to offend the OP but from the pictures I saw, it is too big and ricer for me.

Gunman 02-15-2015 05:07 PM

With up to 25° AOA, and the large end plates, I suspect this is an autocross type wing, for slower speed corners?

extrashaky 02-15-2015 05:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MRE (Post 2133291)
[*]#1 is the most conservative, cosmetically.

You mean this?

http://i1190.photobucket.com/albums/...ps66aea76e.jpg

That's definitely NOT conservative. I suppose if you're going primarily for function in a racing application, that's fine. But if you think you're going to market that for street vehicles, you will likely get some negative feedback.

asnoir 02-15-2015 05:52 PM

The wing is huge ! Could you bring a normal wing?

Tromatic 02-15-2015 06:27 PM

The market for big-ass clown-wings is pretty much covered. Good luck, though.

Burrcold 02-15-2015 06:39 PM

That's ridiculous.

MRE 02-15-2015 06:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gunman
With up to 25° AOA, and the large end plates, I suspect this is an autocross type wing, for slower speed corners?

The performance of aerodynamics works alongside with the other modifications done to a car. My wing has a large coefficient for creating downforce. This wing is functional at all speeds, on cars of all power/mod index.

Quote:

Originally Posted by asnoir
The wing is huge ! Could you bring a normal wing?

The market is full of smaller wings. I am creating a wing that can output more noticeable downforce, the size of my wing is the by-product of that goal.

MRE 02-15-2015 06:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by extrashaky (Post 2133419)
You mean this?

http://i1190.photobucket.com/albums/...ps66aea76e.jpg

That's definitely NOT conservative. I suppose if you're going primarily for function in a racing application, that's fine. But if you think you're going to market that for street vehicles, you will likely get some negative feedback.

It is not the most conservative in the market, but is it the most conservative of my 3 designs so far. I created endplate #1 because I've had someone comment my original, #3, being too big for daily. I've decided I would sell the wings with different endplate options, depending on user preferences.

I am aiming my customer market at those who seek greater performance and reducing lap-times through aerodynamic modifications. The current popular market, from my studies and analysis, do not perform as greatly as I would like it to be. I am creating a product and listing out the specs and what it can be done with it, but in the end, it is up to the customer's imagination to decide what to do with it, even if it's for cosmetic reasons.

Zanwald 02-15-2015 06:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MRE (Post 2133469)
The performance of aerodynamics works alongside with the other modifications done to a car. My wing has a large coefficient for creating downforce. This wing is functional at all speeds, on cars of all power/mod index.



The market is full of smaller wings. I am creating a wing that can output more noticeable downforce, the size of my wing is the by-product of that goal.

And who is running a GT86 powerful enough to require THIS?

MRE 02-15-2015 06:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zanwald (Post 2133485)
And who is running a GT86 powerful enough to require THIS?

Anyone can. The performance of aerodynamics works alongside the current power/modification index of a car, even if it was stock too. While I did not intentionally design this for a stock vehicle, I can still guarantee and will prove that my wing will improve lap-times.

Zanwald 02-15-2015 06:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MRE (Post 2133490)
Anyone can. The performance of aerodynamics works alongside the current power/modification index of a car, even if it was stock too. While I did not intentionally design this for a stock vehicle, I can still guarantee and will prove that my wing will improve lap-times.

You'd lose money on this.

Wise 02-15-2015 07:07 PM

For functionality the stock 12-14 BRZ/GT86 wing.

For Aesthetics the Five Axis.


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