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shif7i7down · 02-09-2015, 06:27 PM

i just want to chime in and say that if you are looking for full FI and if you dont plan to go well over 300whp, just stick to the esc. I'm currently running the SBD kit and i gotta say it's very similar to the ESC just a bit more umph up top but other then that it's noting special with turbo, just alot more money on supporting mods is all you'll get.

with the e85 tune i made roughly 210whp vs 237whp with the turbo kit. i attached a virtual dyno that i did with both setup done on the same road. it may not be super accurate when compared to a real dyno but it's good enough for comparing my before and after mod.
also, i want to say that i love the sbd turbo kit but if i had to do it all over again, i think i would've just stick with the ESC for pure simplicity sake.
also keep in mind that i spent a little over 3k for the turbo kit + 1K for ecutek and tune. roughly 500usd for an oil cooler, then add the catch can, thermo wraps, boost controller, gages, etc..... and some bloody knuckles from the install lol.

also keep in mind that this is just the stock sbd kit on my car vs the ESC with e85 (also on my car, it my be different on other people's cars.

shif7i7down · 02-09-2015, 06:33 PM

was it worth it to go turbo......maybe in the future when I start shooting for higher numbers.
i will have to say that I really do enjoy the sbd kit, but the instant boost of the ESC is well worth it for it's price range.
just my honest personal opinion from having both kit's.

raven1231 · 02-09-2015, 06:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by shif7i7down

i just want to chime in and say that if you are looking for full FI and if you dont plan to go well over 300whp, just stick to the esc. I'm currently running the SBD kit and i gotta say it's very similar to the ESC just a bit more umph up top but other then that it's noting special with turbo, just alot more money on supporting mods is all you'll get.

with the e85 tune i made roughly 210whp vs 237whp with the turbo kit. i attached a virtual dyno that i did with both setup done on the same road. it may not be super accurate when compared to a real dyno but it's good enough for comparing my before and after mod.
also, i want to say that i love the sbd turbo kit but if i had to do it all over again, i think i would've just stick with the ESC for pure simplicity sake.
also keep in mind that i spent a little over 3k for the turbo kit + 1K for ecutek and tune. roughly 500usd for an oil cooler, then add the catch can, thermo wraps, boost controller, gages, etc..... and some bloody knuckles from the install lol.

also keep in mind that this is just the stock sbd kit on my car vs the ESC with e85 (also on my car, it my be different on other people's cars.

What psi are you running ? I plan to get the Sbd kit too but aim to be around 300-350 hp wheel

shif7i7down · 02-09-2015, 07:24 PM

7.5psi in that graph, but I'm currently getting tuned for 10psi as we speak.

Shiv@Openflash · 02-09-2015, 08:21 PM

Just a little pic of another future Phantom SC application:

Guess the vehicle

Sojhinn · 02-09-2015, 08:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shiv@Openflash

Just a little pic of another future Phantom SC application:

Guess the vehicle

S2000? Nope stupid me.

Ariel atom would be cool though. Don't they have an ecotec engine on them?

Indy_FRS · 02-09-2015, 08:25 PM

Ecotec, I'll hope it's a Polaris Slingshot

continuecrushing · 02-09-2015, 08:26 PM

is that a sky/solstice?

raven1231 · 02-09-2015, 08:32 PM

whatever it is the tires are very small

Shiv@Openflash · 02-09-2015, 08:32 PM

This one will probably give it a way:

Sojhinn · 02-09-2015, 08:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shiv@Openflash

This one will probably give it a way:

What type of control computer or partial switch?

Shiv@Openflash · 02-09-2015, 08:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sojhinn

What type of control computer or partial switch?

Computer control

Sojhinn · 02-09-2015, 08:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shiv@Openflash

Computer control

If you don't mind me asking how's the tuning for it? Easier, the same? How are the batteries holding up under the new control?

Shiv@Openflash · 02-09-2015, 08:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sojhinn

If you don't mind me asking how's the tuning for it? Easier, the same? How are the batteries holding up under the new control?

I've been running the new computer controlled set up in a customer's Miata for a couple weeks now. No issues at all to report. It's pretty awesome actually

http://forum.miata.net/vb/showthread.php?t=567709

02-09-2015, 06:27 PM	#211
shif7i7down Erected Member Join Date: Mar 2014 Drives: frs Location: Wisconsin Posts: 391 Thanks: 69 Thanked 185 Times in 100 Posts Mentioned: 10 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	i just want to chime in and say that if you are looking for full FI and if you dont plan to go well over 300whp, just stick to the esc. I'm currently running the SBD kit and i gotta say it's very similar to the ESC just a bit more umph up top but other then that it's noting special with turbo, just alot more money on supporting mods is all you'll get. with the e85 tune i made roughly 210whp vs 237whp with the turbo kit. i attached a virtual dyno that i did with both setup done on the same road. it may not be super accurate when compared to a real dyno but it's good enough for comparing my before and after mod. also, i want to say that i love the sbd turbo kit but if i had to do it all over again, i think i would've just stick with the ESC for pure simplicity sake. also keep in mind that i spent a little over 3k for the turbo kit + 1K for ecutek and tune. roughly 500usd for an oil cooler, then add the catch can, thermo wraps, boost controller, gages, etc..... and some bloody knuckles from the install lol. also keep in mind that this is just the stock sbd kit on my car vs the ESC with e85 (also on my car, it my be different on other people's cars. __________________ https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?=87912848 Last edited by shif7i7down; 02-09-2015 at 06:39 PM. Reason: speeling

02-09-2015, 06:33 PM	#212
shif7i7down Erected Member Join Date: Mar 2014 Drives: frs Location: Wisconsin Posts: 391 Thanks: 69 Thanked 185 Times in 100 Posts Mentioned: 10 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	was it worth it to go turbo......maybe in the future when I start shooting for higher numbers. i will have to say that I really do enjoy the sbd kit, but the instant boost of the ESC is well worth it for it's price range. just my honest personal opinion from having both kit's. __________________ https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?=87912848

02-09-2015, 07:24 PM	#214
shif7i7down Erected Member Join Date: Mar 2014 Drives: frs Location: Wisconsin Posts: 391 Thanks: 69 Thanked 185 Times in 100 Posts Mentioned: 10 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	7.5psi in that graph, but I'm currently getting tuned for 10psi as we speak. __________________ https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?=87912848

02-09-2015, 08:32 PM	#219
raven1231 Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2013 Drives: 2013 Firestorm FR-S, 2016 DGM WRX Location: Cincinnati, Ohio Posts: 4,580 Thanks: 8,264 Thanked 3,118 Times in 1,667 Posts Mentioned: 24 Post(s) Tagged: 1 Thread(s)	whatever it is the tires are very small __________________ http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=59870

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