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Old 12-22-2014, 10:53 AM   #43
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man, those are THIN rotors. they look like rear brakes, lol.
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This might turn out to be more of a pad review than the system review, but bite characteristics are noticeably different.
the stock pad bit hard initially as I pressed the pedal, and then plateaued quickly too.
now it is much more linear on bite as well. It is easier to modulate braking as it feels like the harder I press, the harder I stop.
It definitely feels like stopping distances have shortened substantially. Of course I don't have any data to back this up.
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Old 12-22-2014, 07:04 PM   #45
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What pads are you running?
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Old 12-22-2014, 10:07 PM   #46
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What pads are you running?
Wilwood BP 10 on front, stock rear.

I will most probably shift to EBC Yellowstuff all around shortly.
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Old 12-22-2014, 11:05 PM   #47
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Also, i think i have air in my brake system.

Can anyone point me to a good reputed place that can bleed my brake system properly?
I am in Erie PA, hopefully something nearby would be good.

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Old 12-23-2014, 08:24 AM   #48
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I am pretty sure those are the same calipers I have on my Civic RT4WD. Interesting.
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Old 12-23-2014, 10:29 AM   #49
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Also, i think i have air in my brake system.
Can you describe the issue?

When I switched to the Wilwoods I noticed the pedal was hard at first, but over a few days of driving, the pedal would get soft as if it was leaking air into the system. I could pump the pedal once to get it to firm up. Bleeding the brakes would net a decent amount of air.

I found tapping (w/ rubber mallet) on the Caliper before and during bleeding got a decent amount of air out, but I am still having the problem. It only gets to a certain point that is fine for driving, the pedal travel is just a bit too far for my liking. I was hoping that switching to the smaller piston area and better sealing of the connections should help. Though it sounds like you are having the same issue
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Can you describe the issue?
Though it sounds like you are having the same issue
My pedal engagement is the same every time, just feels a bit spongy. It has always been spongy, but it hasn't gotten better or worse in the past few days.
I hope that helps...
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How are those calipers so cheap?


Because many of the cheaper Wilwood calipers are modular. The two outside halves are fitted with different spacers to fit a variety of rotor widths.
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Old 12-23-2014, 11:06 AM   #52
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My pedal engagement is the same every time, just feels a bit spongy. It has always been spongy, but it hasn't gotten better or worse in the past few days.
I hope that helps...


Did you properly bed the brakes in?


Also, I hate pressure bleeders. I always do the old school way with someone in the car pumping the brakes and someone at the caliper for the bleeder screw.
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Did you properly bed the brakes in?
I think so. Followed the procedure they gave me.
One thing i did not do was bang on the calipers with a mallet while bleeding, which i shall do shortly, once i get delivery of more fluid.
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I think so. Followed the procedure they gave me.
One thing i did not do was bang on the calipers with a mallet while bleeding, which i shall do shortly, once i get delivery of more fluid.


Of all the Wilwoods and other brakes I've installed, I've never had to beat on the caliper to get a good bleed. Just took plenty of fluid and using the 2-man method.


As for bedding, you may try again. Go find a lightly used piece of road and literally just do 75-5 mph stops until you can smell the brakes and the pedal gets nice and soft. Drive home using minimal brake to let them cool, then re-bleed.
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