follow ft86club on our blog, twitter or facebook.
FT86CLUB
Ft86Club
Speed By Design
Register Garage Community Calendar Today's Posts Search

Go Back   Toyota GR86, 86, FR-S and Subaru BRZ Forum & Owners Community - FT86CLUB > Off-Topic Discussions > Other Vehicles & General Automotive Discussions

Other Vehicles & General Automotive Discussions Discuss all other cars and automotive news here.

Register and become an FT86Club.com member. You will see fewer ads

User Tag List

Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Old 12-08-2014, 02:59 AM   #827
EAGLE5
Dismember
 
EAGLE5's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2013
Drives: 2013 Red Scion FR-S
Location: Castro Valley
Posts: 5,562
Thanks: 2,153
Thanked 4,002 Times in 2,157 Posts
Mentioned: 43 Post(s)
Tagged: 1 Thread(s)
Garage
Quote:
Originally Posted by Dipstik-sportech View Post
I hope you're joking
0-60 around 4.2 and quarter around 12.6. That's on a stock car. Yes, a monster.
EAGLE5 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-08-2014, 09:46 AM   #828
DarkSunrise
Senior Member
 
DarkSunrise's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2012
Drives: 22 BRZ (Previously 13 FR-S)
Location: USA
Posts: 5,798
Thanks: 2,187
Thanked 4,243 Times in 2,221 Posts
Mentioned: 48 Post(s)
Tagged: 2 Thread(s)
Just saw this video yesterday. Phenomenal car! I don't particularly like the way the C7 looks, but the performance of the C7 Z06 (w/s3 aero package) in Randy Pobst's hands is incredible, especially considering it's a stock street car. The 1:30 laptime at RA matches the Evasive FR-S, which was on better tires and purpose built for the track. Very impressive.
__________________
"Never run out of real estate, traction, and ideas at the same time."

2022 BRZ Build
2013 FR-S Build
DarkSunrise is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-08-2014, 09:50 AM   #829
Dipstik-sportech
Senior Member
 
Dipstik-sportech's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2012
Drives: 2013 BRZ satin white pearl sportech
Location: Thunder Bay Ontario Canada
Posts: 1,813
Thanks: 842
Thanked 911 Times in 576 Posts
Mentioned: 43 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by jsimon7777 View Post
0-60 around 4.2 and quarter around 12.6. That's on a stock car. Yes, a monster.
I guess we have differing opinions on what constitutes a monster. I've always seen the convertible, auto corvette as a mid life crisis car for fat older men lol.
__________________
2013 SWP BRZ sportech. 11.11sec@129.01mph, 511whp on e70. FullBlown base kit, FullBlown built 9.5:1 engine, GTX3076R GEN2 turbo, 1700cc Bosch injectors, FullBlown flex fuel kit, FullBlown radiator and oil cooler, FullBlown custom 3" dual exit exhaust, act xtreme clutch, whiteline diff and subframe inserts, BC Racing coilovers, hotchkiss 18mm rear sway, is300 3.73 differential ... Never finished
Dipstik-sportech is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-08-2014, 11:48 AM   #830
Levi
Senior Member
 
Join Date: May 2011
Drives: Toyota
Location: Germany
Posts: 1,202
Thanks: 134
Thanked 138 Times in 90 Posts
Mentioned: 5 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by Dipstik-sportech View Post
I guess we have differing opinions on what constitutes a monster. I've always seen the convertible, auto corvette as a mid life crisis car for fat older men lol.
Those are not differing opinions, it is simply your opinion that is just 100% wrong.
Levi is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-08-2014, 12:04 PM   #831
serialk11r
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2011
Drives: '06 AM V8V Coupe
Location: United States of America
Posts: 5,279
Thanks: 285
Thanked 1,074 Times in 759 Posts
Mentioned: 13 Post(s)
Tagged: 1 Thread(s)
Garage
Quote:
Originally Posted by Sideways&Smiling View Post
No need to tell me that. I would be all over an NSX if I could afford one. haha.

I'm really hoping Honda comes out with a mid-engine turbocharged inline 4 cylinder coupe, like the rumors are saying... if the S2000 retained the double wishbone setup and rigid chassis, but was a coupe, had a slightly longer wheel base, and a mid-engine layout, with a turbocharged engine making 350-400hp or more, it would be the ultimate "affordable" sports car, IMO. A smaller, more agile, more affordable "baby NSX" is probably my ideal car, if such a thing were to exist.
I always wondered why Toyota had the balls to make MR2s for a whole 20 years but Honda didn't even have a rear wheel drive offering other than the NSX for quite a while.

I would personally not buy an NSX unless it was going to be a garage queen, they're too rare and expensive. I'd be borderline okay with driving a Lotus Evora or Porsche 911 around if I had the money, but it would still be a somewhat occasional car. I've grown to appreciate all the scratches and dents on my MR2 because when I drive it around people think it looks like a Porsche, then they see the Toyota badge, then they see the dents, and then it's clear that my car is not expensive lol. I think the reason Porsche is doing so well with the Boxster and Cayman is that they're everyday cars, and an actually potent midengined competitor from Japan could pull that market away pretty easily IMO. The ratio of 911s to Boxster/Caymans on the road is tiny.

I would be all over a basic, compact mid-engined car that comes in under 35k, financial responsibility be damned. Someone just has to make one so I can go into debt for it.
serialk11r is offline   Reply With Quote
The Following User Says Thank You to serialk11r For This Useful Post:
Sideways&Smiling (12-08-2014)
Old 12-08-2014, 12:09 PM   #832
Dipstik-sportech
Senior Member
 
Dipstik-sportech's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2012
Drives: 2013 BRZ satin white pearl sportech
Location: Thunder Bay Ontario Canada
Posts: 1,813
Thanks: 842
Thanked 911 Times in 576 Posts
Mentioned: 43 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by Levi View Post
Those are not differing opinions, it is simply your opinion that is just 100% wrong.
Mmmm no I'm not. Research the demographic that buys an automatic corvette convertible then come back and tell me I'm wrong. Hell just google mid life crisis car and the vette is the #1 answer almost 100% of the time. Get a pink one and you can roll with barbie!!!
__________________
2013 SWP BRZ sportech. 11.11sec@129.01mph, 511whp on e70. FullBlown base kit, FullBlown built 9.5:1 engine, GTX3076R GEN2 turbo, 1700cc Bosch injectors, FullBlown flex fuel kit, FullBlown radiator and oil cooler, FullBlown custom 3" dual exit exhaust, act xtreme clutch, whiteline diff and subframe inserts, BC Racing coilovers, hotchkiss 18mm rear sway, is300 3.73 differential ... Never finished
Dipstik-sportech is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-08-2014, 12:48 PM   #833
kiichiro
corolla specs/GTR looks
 
Join Date: May 2013
Drives: ooh oooh pretty tail lights
Location: slower than a accord V6
Posts: 490
Thanks: 229
Thanked 113 Times in 79 Posts
Mentioned: 5 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
I'm 42
10 lb overweight,ok maybe 15
I drive a brz
And no I don't want a vert vette
But I will take a hardtop in manual !
Im am about to drive a stingray a second time in fully loaded trim and yeah we may be trading in our second BRZ, the 1st one turned into a porsche
__________________
SOLD THEM BOTH
Hers: 2007 987S
Mine: 2012 991S
That was fun, thanks Hachi
kiichiro is offline   Reply With Quote
The Following User Says Thank You to kiichiro For This Useful Post:
CK_Bladesmith (12-12-2014)
Old 12-08-2014, 02:01 PM   #834
Ultramaroon
not playing cards
 
Ultramaroon's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2014
Drives: a 13 e8h frs
Location: vantucky, wa
Posts: 32,395
Thanks: 53,053
Thanked 37,228 Times in 19,308 Posts
Mentioned: 1117 Post(s)
Tagged: 9 Thread(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by Dipstik-sportech View Post
Mmmm no I'm not. Research the demographic that buys an automatic corvette convertible then come back and tell me I'm wrong. Hell just google mid life crisis car and the vette is the #1 answer almost 100% of the time. Get a pink one and you can roll with barbie!!!
The target demographic doesn't have anything to do with the merits of the car. That would be like saying the Miata is a POS because it's a "bitter divorcee" car.

I would have long ago been driving the shit out of a Miata (or an MR2, for that matter) if I wasn't 6'5".
Ultramaroon is offline   Reply With Quote
The Following User Says Thank You to Ultramaroon For This Useful Post:
fatoni (12-08-2014)
Old 12-08-2014, 03:58 PM   #835
fatoni
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2011
Drives: miata, mazdaspeed protege, ls430
Location: socal
Posts: 4,416
Thanks: 599
Thanked 1,443 Times in 787 Posts
Mentioned: 28 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by Sideways&Smiling View Post
It would definitely make the car better. A true mid-engine car will always be better than a front-midship. Better weight distribution = more grip and a lower polar moment = faster to change directions = better cornering. It would also allow more room up front for electric motors.

http://www.roadandtrack.com/car-cult...percar-cdsynd/


Seats are no big deal. Anybody can buy great aftermarket seats for most sports cars for $600-$1500 a piece without much trouble... not really something to think about in an $80K car, IMO.
what is "better weight distribution"? the vette is already rear biased and thanks to a transaxle, most of the weight is in the middle of the car already.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Sideways&Smiling View Post
No need to tell me that. I would be all over an NSX if I could afford one. haha.

I'm really hoping Honda comes out with a mid-engine turbocharged inline 4 cylinder coupe, like the rumors are saying... if the S2000 retained the double wishbone setup and rigid chassis, but was a coupe, had a slightly longer wheel base, and a mid-engine layout, with a turbocharged engine making 350-400hp or more, it would be the ultimate "affordable" sports car, IMO. A smaller, more agile, more affordable "baby NSX" is probably my ideal car, if such a thing were to exist.

Don't get me wrong, front mid-ship is still better for weight distribution and turn-in than your standard front-heavy FR car, but mid-engine is ideal...
define affordable. i dont even think so much of that is possible. mid engined cars with double wishbones have to be huge since both the engine and the suspension take up space. also, you are describing a cayman. just get one of those.
__________________
Drive upgrades. Don't buy them.
fatoni is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-08-2014, 04:28 PM   #836
jflogerzi
Senior Member
 
jflogerzi's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2012
Drives: 2013 Series 10 6MT FR-S
Location: Moreno Valley, CA
Posts: 5,565
Thanks: 2,013
Thanked 2,043 Times in 1,474 Posts
Mentioned: 72 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Garage
Quote:
Originally Posted by DarkSunrise View Post
Just saw this video yesterday. Phenomenal car! I don't particularly like the way the C7 looks, but the performance of the C7 Z06 (w/s3 aero package) in Randy Pobst's hands is incredible, especially considering it's a stock street car. The 1:30 laptime at RA matches the Evasive FR-S, which was on better tires and purpose built for the track. Very impressive.
Dont fool yourself. The c7 z06 a purpose built track car but is also drivable on the street.
__________________
2013 Series 10 FRS #553
RCE T2's, SPC LCAs -4/2.6 camber
JDL 4-2-1 EL, FP and OP, Tuned by Zach@CSG on e85
RR Wilwood Front/Rear Sport BBK, Motul 600 Fluid
ARC-8 17x9 SX2 GTs 245s/Koing 17x8 v730's 225's
jflogerzi is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-08-2014, 05:05 PM   #837
Dipstik-sportech
Senior Member
 
Dipstik-sportech's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2012
Drives: 2013 BRZ satin white pearl sportech
Location: Thunder Bay Ontario Canada
Posts: 1,813
Thanks: 842
Thanked 911 Times in 576 Posts
Mentioned: 43 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by Ultramaroon View Post
The target demographic doesn't have anything to do with the merits of the car. That would be like saying the Miata is a POS because it's a "bitter divorcee" car.

I would have long ago been driving the shit out of a Miata (or an MR2, for that matter) if I wasn't 6'5".
I'm sorry bud but I just can't call a car a monster that runs neck and neck with a stock sti or evo. If you want a percmformance car you buy the 6spd, if you want a monster you buy the z06 and if you wanna kill yourself you buy the zr1. The Corvette convertible is a coastal cruiser not a track monster. I've never known anyone that days "I want a monster of a car, I know a C6 auto vette!!" I the miss use of the word monster have something do do with it.
__________________
2013 SWP BRZ sportech. 11.11sec@129.01mph, 511whp on e70. FullBlown base kit, FullBlown built 9.5:1 engine, GTX3076R GEN2 turbo, 1700cc Bosch injectors, FullBlown flex fuel kit, FullBlown radiator and oil cooler, FullBlown custom 3" dual exit exhaust, act xtreme clutch, whiteline diff and subframe inserts, BC Racing coilovers, hotchkiss 18mm rear sway, is300 3.73 differential ... Never finished
Dipstik-sportech is offline   Reply With Quote
The Following User Says Thank You to Dipstik-sportech For This Useful Post:
Ultramaroon (12-08-2014)
Old 12-08-2014, 05:08 PM   #838
DarkSunrise
Senior Member
 
DarkSunrise's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2012
Drives: 22 BRZ (Previously 13 FR-S)
Location: USA
Posts: 5,798
Thanks: 2,187
Thanked 4,243 Times in 2,221 Posts
Mentioned: 48 Post(s)
Tagged: 2 Thread(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by jflogerzi View Post
Dont fool yourself. The c7 z06 a purpose built track car but is also drivable on the street.
I don't think we're using the term "purpose built track car" in the same way because that should be a contradiction in terms.

The Evasive FR-S was built solely for the track. There was literally zero effort made to keep the car streetable, and as a result (and not surprisingly) it's not driveable on the street. It's taken everywhere in an enclosed trailer. Stripped, gutted, and caged. Helmet required, no airbags. 6-pt HANS, race seats, kill switch, fire extinguisher. One-off, custom fabricated parts throughout. Runs on race gas. 4+ fluid coolers, would probably break in sub-zero temperatures used as a street car. Full engine build, no chance of passing CARB. The list goes on and on, but this is a purpose built track car.

To me, the C7Z is not a purpose built track car. Too many concessions were made to keep it streetable (CARB certification/emissions, pedestrian safety, crash safety/airbags, cold-weather requirements, noise levels, pump gas). The purpose built track car in the Corvette lineup is the C7R.
__________________
"Never run out of real estate, traction, and ideas at the same time."

2022 BRZ Build
2013 FR-S Build
DarkSunrise is offline   Reply With Quote
The Following 3 Users Say Thank You to DarkSunrise For This Useful Post:
Captain Snooze (12-08-2014), fatoni (12-08-2014), Tcoat (12-08-2014)
Old 12-08-2014, 05:10 PM   #839
D_Thissen
Senior Member
 
D_Thissen's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2014
Drives: '13 Argento FR-S (Sold)
Location: Ontario
Posts: 2,126
Thanks: 3,209
Thanked 1,439 Times in 855 Posts
Mentioned: 19 Post(s)
Tagged: 2 Thread(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by Levi View Post
Those are not differing opinions, it is simply your opinion that is just 100% wrong.
And that's just your opinion. Everyone is entitled to their opinions. Just because you don't agree with them, doesn't mean they are wrong. I do slightly agree though. Not saying the corvette isn't impressive, I just don't think a base C6 convertible automatic is. Now a track spec Z06/ZR1 different story.
__________________
D_Thissen is offline   Reply With Quote
The Following User Says Thank You to D_Thissen For This Useful Post:
Dipstik-sportech (12-08-2014)
Old 12-08-2014, 06:13 PM   #840
Ultramaroon
not playing cards
 
Ultramaroon's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2014
Drives: a 13 e8h frs
Location: vantucky, wa
Posts: 32,395
Thanks: 53,053
Thanked 37,228 Times in 19,308 Posts
Mentioned: 1117 Post(s)
Tagged: 9 Thread(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by Dipstik-sportech View Post
I'm sorry bud but I just can't call a car a monster that runs neck and neck with a stock sti or evo. If you want a percmformance car you buy the 6spd, if you want a monster you buy the z06 and if you wanna kill yourself you buy the zr1. The Corvette convertible is a coastal cruiser not a track monster. I've never known anyone that days "I want a monster of a car, I know a C6 auto vette!!" I the miss use of the word monster have something do do with it.
No, that's cool. I was only disagreeing with attaching a demographic reputation to the merits of the platform.
Ultramaroon is offline   Reply With Quote
 


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
2014 Chevrolet Camaro Z/28: The Trans-Am Racer Returns! JPxM0Dz Other Vehicles & General Automotive Discussions 53 02-24-2016 11:55 AM
OEM Chevrolet Corvette 17x9.5 +56 BII302 Wheels | Tires | Spacers | Hub -- Sponsored by The Tire Rack 44 06-07-2014 02:52 AM
Marc08EX Detailed: 2007 Chevrolet Corvette Z06 - Black Marc08EX Cosmetic Maintenance (Wash, Wax, Detailing, Body Repairs) 8 07-11-2012 11:57 PM
2011 Chevrolet Corvette Z06 Carbon slots in right below ZR1 vh_supra26 Other Vehicles & General Automotive Discussions 2 03-14-2010 10:09 PM


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 06:38 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2026, vBulletin Solutions Inc.
User Alert System provided by Advanced User Tagging v3.3.0 (Lite) - vBulletin Mods & Addons Copyright © 2026 DragonByte Technologies Ltd.

Garage vBulletin Plugins by Drive Thru Online, Inc.