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Old 07-29-2014, 04:10 PM   #6861
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I must say, I am very impressed by the way Rob stands behind his product!
I think we're all aware of the level of support that some aftermarket vendors provide for their product (which is to say, hardly any) - Rob has positioned himself as the polar opposite.

If the intent is to build a brand with staying power, Rob has taken the right path.
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Old 07-29-2014, 05:04 PM   #6862
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These episodes of faulty product are discouraging just a week away from possibly purchasing a used phantom..... is their a warranty and will it transfer over to the new owner?
For f's sake, does it take you this long to decide on everything? Just buy the damned thing!!
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Old 07-29-2014, 05:36 PM   #6863
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...The only way to weed-out defects is to conduct timely and costly dynamic heat cycle testing (-40/70C). These chambers cost $50k for a small chamber, plus the custom equipment to run the test.
I'm sitting 100' away from two of them right now.. anyone want to send me a free esc kit to test?

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I can tell you from experience that while the sound-tube hole in the firewall is convenient, its not the best location for running wires. You must ensure that the harness does not sag at all at the engine side of the outlet. Best practice is to use silicone to fill the hole (to ensure fumes do not enter the cabin and that the harness is secure) and use zip-ties to make sure that the harness is away from the exhaust manifold.
If the sound tube hole is not optimal, Is there enough slack to run the harness through the firewall beside the ecu harness? Due to my current setup, it would be very easy for me. And it would keep the harness away from the exhaust/heat.
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Old 07-29-2014, 05:44 PM   #6864
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I'm sitting 100' away from two of them right now.. anyone want to send me a free esc kit to test?



If the sound tube hole is not optimal, Is there enough slack to run the harness through the firewall beside the ecu harness? Due to my current setup, it would be very easy for me. And it would keep the harness away from the exhaust/heat.
I have mine on that side but it doesn't look as nice.
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July's over. Hopefully soon =). Will people on the list be notified by forum PM? Don't want to miss my chance.
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Old 07-29-2014, 07:29 PM   #6866
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July's over. Hopefully soon =). Will people on the list be notified by forum PM? Don't want to miss my chance.
You need to feel this thing on e85. Legendary.
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Old 07-29-2014, 07:52 PM   #6867
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Thks Fenton and all the new interested people.
I will be revising the installl manual, after ~30 kits it looks like step by step, circles/arrows, and check boxes are required. I may tag wires and reference them to a # operation, torque specs as well... since 'tighten' is to subjective. I need to evaluate one re-charge board failure and a control board failure. This is ALL new stuff and is primarily a development product not a mass produced product... it can't be... there is 'more' potential here. I'm excited

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Still working on details.

Regarding the re-charge board that stopped working: a lose retainer clip shifted and made contact with the circuit board. Thanks @shif7i7down for returning the controller.
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Old 07-29-2014, 11:55 PM   #6868
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You need to feel this thing on e85. Legendary.

My poor AT is thirsty for corn juice. I'm tempted to try and do map comparisons and try to put together my own -- I might actually do this and then run it by Shiv to see if it seems about right.

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Old 07-30-2014, 12:31 AM   #6869
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My poor AT is thirsty for corn juice. I'm tempted to try and do map comparisons and try to put together my own -- I might actually do this and then run it by Shiv to see if it seems about right.

The thirst is real!
I'm sure he us working on getting it out soon? Have you asked him if he needs any help testing anything?
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Old 07-30-2014, 11:43 AM   #6870
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Still working on details.

Regarding the re-charge board that stopped working: a lose retainer clip shifted and made contact with the circuit board. Thanks @shif7i7down for returning the controller.
Yup no problem, but i should be the one thanking you instead. Your mannerisms and business ethics are top notch. Keepup the great work and hope to see more add-ons in the future.
Btw, i call dibs on being in the list for the first batch of any and all New mods that may be available for this system in the future.
DIBS,
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Old 07-30-2014, 03:53 PM   #6871
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You need to feel this thing on e85. Legendary.
DAEMANO, e85 is really that much better? I mean, I've seen the dynos so I know the numbers. Let me put it this way ...

Is e85 + ESC even just close to a butt dyno improvement over ESC alone, as was stock + tune over stock. When I got the tune I thought "wow, this is fabulous".

Should I expect no ill effects with the direct injectors? Would e85 actually be kinder to the DI's? I only mentioned this due to some paranoia over DI issues, having already needed to replace #1 and #3 because they got extremely gunked up for reasons still unknown, though I now suspect it was the gas station where I was regularly fueling.

I've got an unlimited supply of e85 just a few miles away and I'm contemplating a flex fuel kit as well.
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Yup no problem, but i should be the one thanking you instead. Your mannerisms and business ethics are top notch. Keepup the great work and hope to see more add-ons in the future.
Btw, i call dibs on being in the list for the first batch of any and all New mods that may be available for this system in the future.
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Well in that case. I want dibs also lol
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Old 07-30-2014, 04:30 PM   #6873
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DAEMANO, e85 is really that much better? I mean,
I've got an unlimited supply of e85 just a few miles away and I'm contemplating a flex fuel kit as well.
What is the flex fuel kit? Is that something available from Subaru?
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What is the flex fuel kit? Is that something available from Subaru?

Not available from Subaru. It's basically a sensor that will read the ethanol content of your fuel and allow an Ecutek tune to adjust to match the ethanol content of your fuel. Shiv's tune is good from E60 up, so flex fuel isn't necessary for most people, but it can be really convenient that you don't have to drain tanks to switch fuels, etc. It is also nice in case you get a particularly bad blend of E85 from a shady station, etc. just safer all around.

I have been using Shiv's E85 OTS in the past and loved it and plan on using his tune again when it is available for ESC 6AT. No flex fuel hardware sensor required for it, but it's wise to check your logs after filling to make sure the station didn't give you something wacky.
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