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Old 07-24-2014, 05:04 PM   #15
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does it hurt the transmission if I don't wait for it to warm up?
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Old 07-24-2014, 05:18 PM   #16
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does it hurt the transmission if I don't wait for it to warm up?
No.


I like the clunk. Means shit is happening.
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Old 07-24-2014, 05:36 PM   #17
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does it hurt the transmission if I don't wait for it to warm up?
Guys I find it helps to double clutch the first couple shifts for second gear when the car is cold. Then you avoid the clunk altogether. When I say double clutch I mean shift to neutral first, blip the gas a bit and then shift to second as opposed to first directly to second.

This worked very well for me in -40 C Canadian weather this winter.
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Old 07-24-2014, 06:00 PM   #18
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I like the clunk. Means shit is happening.
I think this is the best thing anyone's ever said about this transmission ever. I think if you accept that you can go on and live your life and be happy. Lol!
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Old 07-24-2014, 06:17 PM   #19
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I've driven 911s that have clunkier transmissions. I like the clunky FRS transmission. Provides a nice mechanical feel.
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Old 07-24-2014, 06:56 PM   #20
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My baby turned one this week, and she is slowly becoming smoother to shift from first to second. It's winter here though, so during cold starts I've found that hesitating slightly before shifting down into 2nd seems to help a lot:

1st gear / clutch in / shift half way to 2nd for a half second / shift fully to 2nd / release clutch

As someone mentioned above, using higher revs than normal does help but I don't like doing that while she's warming up.
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I think this is the best thing anyone's ever said about this transmission ever. I think if you accept that you can go on and live your life and be happy. Lol!
This is the first M/T car I've owned. It scared me at first, but now it's nice. I am, indeed, pretty happy with it
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the 1-2 doesnt really get better and is always annoying. Just try to forget it and get used to it.
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the 1-2 doesnt really get better and is always annoying. Just try to forget it and get used to it.

I have 1 down but I still have the habit of over-revving in 1.

In the 1-2 transition I still drop the clutch too fast and buck the car.

Yesterday I tried driving aggressively on a back road and missed the 4-5 transition and instead went to 3 and over-revved. Then I did it again missing 5 completely and just over-revved in neutral.

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I have 1 down but I still have the habit of over-revving in 1.

In the 1-2 transition I still drop the clutch too fast and buck the car.

Yesterday I tried driving aggressively on a back road and missed the 4-5 transition and instead went to 3 and over-revved. Then I did it again missing 5 completely and just over-revved in neutral.

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You'll be comforted to know there is a rev limiter preventing over revving in neutral or by use of the gas pedal. You can only over rev by downshifting too early and letting the clutch all the way in.

You can damage the engine by overrevving it even with no load as maximum load on the conrods is reached at TDC on the exhaust stroke, when both valves are open and the piston reverses. Most conrod failure occurs then. Also, above a certain rpm the valves begin to float on their springs and contact between the piston face and the valve heads is possible, again most likely at TDC on the exhaust stroke.

Two things: never, ever over rev your engine and fortunately this particular engine will suffer no damage if you over rev it only a little bit, apparently, and don't ask me how I know this.

It seems very likely this engine is designed to accept a red line of over 8,000 rpm before it becomes a boat anchor. In fact, the easiest way Subaru could develop more power is by raising the redline. This is one of the few engines I have driven recently (other than a Porsche or Ferrari) that seems perfectly willing to pull through its reasonably high redline so there's more to be had above 7,400 rpm with a proper cam profile.
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