Question for the experienced manual drivers..

[enjoi23]

I'm pretty good at driving standard, but the slopes still are nervewrecking for me. I was wondering how you guys go about driving up slopes.. and slopes in traffic. I get the whole parking break thing, but I feel like that would burn either my clutch or break if I keep doing that up a slope during traffic. . .

[86_ZN6]

its just learning how to mix the accelerator and the clutch.

once you've mastered it, you can conquer any slope

[Sasquachulator]

Just dont get stuck on a slope in winter :P
That's the ultimate test lol

[Vladror]

Originally Posted by enjoi23

I'm pretty good at driving standard, but the slopes still are nervewrecking for me. I was wondering how you guys go about driving up slopes.. and slopes in traffic. I get the whole parking break thing, but I feel like that would burn either my clutch or break if I keep doing that up a slope during traffic. . .

find yourself a quiet uphill road and practice till you get it, that's how my dad taught me 20 years ago...
the concept is quite easy but it really does take a lot of practice: you need to find the spot where the engine 'holds' the car, with the clutch fully engaged.
if your RPMs are too low, the car will stall, if too high, it will lunge forward.
the mistake that most people make is that they try to prevent either by using the clutch to compensate, and that's what will burn it in the long run.
the amount of RPM you need will vary on the steepness of the slope, so that's a matter of experience but in this car 2500 RPM should be more or less all you need in most situations. Once you get the right revs, you can release break and clutch at more of less the same time as the clutch will grip when the handbrakes stops gripping.
So remember, use your throttle to control the car, not the clutch. When done well a hill start requires as much clutch engagement as a normal gear shift.

[be6sti]

Kinda what the other guy says when I come to a stop on a hill if there is a car stopping behind me I roll back a little to let them know I'm driving a stick ( in my mind ) then just give it a bit of gas while you let out the clutch. Key thing to know is engagement point, once you figure that out its smooth sailing. I like to practice by rolling back n pulling forward in place at a light. It really teaches you how to finesse the clutch. One last thing in my state anyway if while driving a manual car if you roll back into someone it's actually the other persons fault for not keeping a safe distance. Check into that


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[frosty86]

i'd rather burn the clutch a little bit instead of backing up into someone's car... so i always use the e-brake to be 100% sure. But that's just me.

[ML]

The absolute first attempt I ever had in a manual at 14 was up a hill in reverse in the grass....sideways....with no shoes on....in the snow....and there was a cougar in the car with me.

[encity5]

experience.

the more and more you drive and get use to manual, the more and more manageable and easy hills become.

Ive learned to drive stick a year ago, and kept having those nerve wrecking feelings, but cant remember when, but ive just gotten use to it that i dont even think about it anymore. It was just experience and getting use to driving with the clutch and the catch point.

You'll get use to hills and not worry about them soon, ive tried searching hard for the "magic" technique, but really just keep driving. if you rollback, chances are itll just be a slight tap on the guy behind you if they are that close.

[Vladror]

if you rollback, chances are itll just be a slight tap on the guy behind you if they are that close.

right, until someone does it to you. Maybe it's b/c i was taught the hard way, but i think rolling back habitually on a hill start is just a sign of poor driving skills and if you can't control your car, you shouldn't be on a public road.
God forbid there's ever a child standing behind your car when it happens. Burn that clutch if you must, but don't roll back

[dsmx17]

hard to practice on hills in houston I would imagine, more so, how is this a problem in houston anyway?

[Turbowned]

Time and practice, my friend. I don't use the handbrake to start from hills, though if you lived in San Fran this might be a different story.

[whaap]

Another option, if you're not happy using the emergency brake, is to keep the ball of your right foot on the brake pedal, turn your ankle so your heel is over the gas pedal. Gradually ad some throttle as you ease off on the brake pedal and the clutch.

[encity5]

Originally Posted by Vladror

right, until someone does it to you. Maybe it's b/c i was taught the hard way, but i think rolling back habitually on a hill start is just a sign of poor driving skills and if you can't control your car, you shouldn't be on a public road.
God forbid there's ever a child standing behind your car when it happens. Burn that clutch if you must, but don't roll back

how do you expect a new stick driver to learn then? stay in the parking lots until hes 100% comfortable? If hes new to driving stick, then yea its a sign of poor driving skills because hes learning. and im not saying to let him keep rolling back, i am sure common sense tells him to brake if hes going to roll like 50feet.

But if your saying that new drivers who havent completely learned to control their car yet to stay off the road until they are 100% confident, then your just telling people to not learn because if you cant do it, dont do it.

All im saying is that if hes trying to learn, and he happens to roll back because he forgot to put enough gas or whatever, is that its not going to be the end of the world.

[dsmx17]

Originally Posted by encity5

All im saying is that if hes trying to learn, and he happens to roll back because he forgot to put enough gas or whatever, is that its not going to be the end of the world.

Can someone check with the Mayans on this? cause that would be some shit right there.