Does anyone regret putting stickier tires on?

[Vracer111]

Stock tires are just about perfect for the car, though I would like a little better wet traction with them. I've been running with 215/45-17 Extreme performance Kumho XS on 17x8 Kosei K4R's for a while now and have come to the conclusion that it is just too much tire for a daily driver vehicle - I actually prefer it more on the stock tires. Since it's about time for new tires the plan is to go to something in between stock and the XS. Looking at going narrower than stock with a 205/45-17 tire size in a sticker Max performance category tire designed for wet handling on my set of 17x7.5" Enkei Fujin wheels (because the 205 tire tread width will match up very well with the 7.5 wheel width.) Set of excellent Max performance tires for under $300 total...yes please!

[GT86Dan]

From reading all these posts its obvious that more and more people need to take this car to an hpde and have a good instructor. I don't know what you guys are doing to break this car loose going around a corner. Chucking a car around a corner and then saying I slid around because of the stock tires, but you won't on wider rubber just means you have no idea what you are doing with that tire. Besides why in gods name would you want to do that on the street !? Case in point learn on the stock tire trust me its perfectly fine tire, better yet give me your sticker I'll gladly thrash them for you


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[DarkSunrise]

Originally Posted by turbocat

I also agree with you both.

I ran all last season's local Auto-X on Hankook RS3s 225/45/17. Grippy but they hid a lot of my bad driving. It felt good but I wasn't learning as much as I should.

I just went to this season's first event. I was lazy and left my stock Michelin Primacy tires on for this event. Although the car was slower/less grip, it wasn't a tail happy drift machine either. It was very predictable and controllable. I had my air pressure up to 40PSI all around and the corner block wear was running true with the guide marks. IMHO the stock tires only lose grip when you aren't giving smooth inputs to the car. It sounds obvious but it isn't to most people. Not once was the car drifting with the tires ablaze rounding a corner. Sure they protested a little, but nothing that I couldn't correct and keep on line. Some car control education goes a long way. Its very eye opening to drive the stock tires on the limit in a safe environment.

I agree with the point you're making, and track and autox my car with less-than-ideal Sumitomo HTR ZIII for that reason, but I think it's important when people say "stock" tires to distinguish between summer Primacy's and AS Turanzas.

Orthojoe did some testing on track and found the stock Primacys were very close to MPSS in overall peak grip on an otherwise stock Twin, with slightly faster breakaway characteristics. So the stock Primacys might actually be just a shade below true summer performance tires in terms of peak grip.

The other "stock" tire (AS Turanza EL400-02) isn't going to come anywhere near that level of performance. So it might be a different story for people with that stock tire.

[YMAA]

Originally Posted by Sportsguy83

You are basically asking if anyone regrets dumping this:



For this....

I dunno, I think the top one might be stickier.

[Sportsguy83]

Originally Posted by YMAA

I dunno, I think the top one might be stickier.

With lights off, all bets are off kind of deal...

[CatDaddysBBQ]

I'm on the stock all season's (chicagoland) for the past year and love them on the street. I'm getting increasingly annoyed with poor autoX performance, so I think i'm going to invest in a separate set of wheels with some sticky tires for "track" days so I can improve but not spoil the fun on the everyday driving.

[5hairpins]

Been on my Michelin A/S 3's for about two weeks after replacing my 2 year old Primacies. Car still breaks traction when I want it too but much better turn in and braking. So far I say, sticky is an improvement.