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Old 04-30-2014, 06:31 PM   #29
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I could check on that, but I was under the impression it was impossuble with the smart key ! Ill look around the forums thanks

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May be easier to just contact Viper directly or a reputable and authorized installer. Most audio shops are authorized, just the reputable part that may take some investigating. Local car forums are your best lead for that part.
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During winter i was locking my car via the switch inside the door, letting the car warm up, and then unlocking with the small key in my fob.

Well, that worked great until one day my fob didn't unlock the car because the lock had frozen. Spent 10mins trying to open it/warm up the lock with no success.

Thankfully i was still able to access the trunk and had to go in that way to unlock the car. Must've been pretty funny for everyone going by watching a 6ft2/230lb dude trying to squeeze into a tiny trunk
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Well, asking if converting a brz into a snow plow is doable is a question also.

But I would respond the same. Why?
The best answer to that is simple. The more times you start a car in cold weather(below freezing) the harder it is on your battery. An extreme test would be to go somewhere it is 15F and start your car, drive around the block(less then 2 miles) then park it and shut it off. Do this with 5 minutes in between each run. Do atleast 10 runs like this. Let the car sit overnight while the temperature drops near or below 0F. Wake up in the morning while it is still well below freezing and start your car. It either will barely start or won't start. There is your answer as to why.
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The best answer to that is simple. The more times you start a car in cold weather(below freezing) the harder it is on your battery. An extreme test would be to go somewhere it is 15F and start your car, drive around the block(less then 2 miles) then park it and shut it off. Do this with 5 minutes in between each run. Do atleast 10 runs like this. Let the car sit overnight while the temperature drops near or below 0F. Wake up in the morning while it is still well below freezing and start your car. It either will barely start or won't start. There is your answer as to why.
Your theory is wrong. The temps reach anywhere between -20 low to -4 F here in the winter, never had an issue starting the car. Its not the battery as much as it's the gas ..
Hell we keep airplanes outside for months in those temps and just takes one crank for it to fire off.
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Your theory is wrong. The temps reach anywhere between -20 low to -4 F here in the winter, never had an issue starting the car. Its not the battery as much as it's the gas ..
Hell we keep airplanes outside for months in those temps and just takes one crank for it to fire off.
No theory in my statement. I have roll started a few cars due to a battery that had been run low due to many on/off cycles or leaving headlights, radio, dome light or other accessory on for a while. Lead acid batteries do not take well to a low charge in cold weather. I live in Maine and have dealt with below 0 temps.
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Some of us think the question is moot because it is illegal where I live to leave the car running with no-one in it.....

And I cannot imagine any reasonable scenario that has one starting & stopping so often that they even need this feature. Maybe my neighborhood milkman, but he drives a big truck, not a BRZ/FR-S
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Some of us think the question is moot because it is illegal where I live to leave the car running with no-one in it.....

And I cannot imagine any reasonable scenario that has one starting & stopping so often that they even need this feature. Maybe my neighborhood milkman, but he drives a big truck, not a BRZ/FR-S
Mini threadjack, but you have a milkman for reals?? like door to door residential???
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i want to be able to do this in the winter.
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Mini threadjack, but you have a milkman for reals?? like door to door residential???
Yes. locally produced. we get about 3 gallons a week.
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The best answer to that is simple. The more times you start a car in cold weather(below freezing) the harder it is on your battery. An extreme test would be to go somewhere it is 15F and start your car, drive around the block(less then 2 miles) then park it and shut it off. Do this with 5 minutes in between each run. Do atleast 10 runs like this. Let the car sit overnight while the temperature drops near or below 0F. Wake up in the morning while it is still well below freezing and start your car. It either will barely start or won't start. There is your answer as to why.

This is all stuff that I am well aware of. Still doesn't answer the question "Why?".

If you live in those types of extemem conditions, Why? is a BRZ you main source of transportation?

If it is not your main source of transportation, Why? are you driving the BRZ in those conditions?

If the BRZ is your main source of transportation? Why? did the devil posess you and make you choose a BRZ instead of something more fitting for that type of environment?

there are tons of "Why?"s. I should of explained that I was fully aware of Why? extreme cold weather is bad for anything mechanical.
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having driven a 240 sx for 2 winters in ottawa i'll tell you why.

BECAUSE ITS FUCKING FUN! and a rwd car with proper winter tires is a very capable vehicle in snow.

You turned your 240sx into a snow plow?! I believe you when you say it was fun!
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Now i get that you live in Cali where cold is anything below 65, but a RWD car is very capable in the snow with the proper tires, and really a "more fitting" vehicle which i'm guessing you mean AWD is only truly needed if you're going to be climbing mountain passes. And even then that AWD vehicle needs proper tires and a competent driver or they'll end up in the ditch.

having driven RWD cars in the winter for a several years i can tell you i saw more AWD cars in the ditch than i did anything else. It gives people a false sense of security and over confidence.

my personal opinion of course.
The argument isn't the capability of RWD in the snow, Its why are you driving a BRZ in extreme conditions where you need to keep it running and want to lock it to keep hobos out?

Maybe its just me being to level headed and logical. But if I had to go out where it was freezing and was afraid that a hobo would get in my car to be warm (I wouldn't, i have been cold with no shelter before). I wouldn't be driving this tiny rwd coupe anywhere.

Not only for safety and practical reasons, but also for love of my car.

I'd be driving some beat up 4wd, 3 mpg to the gallon tank.

Like a rover or something :P
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How about installing a programmable turbo timer?
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The argument isn't the capability of RWD in the snow, Its why are you driving a BRZ in extreme conditions where you need to keep it running and want to lock it to keep hobos out?

Maybe its just me being to level headed and logical. But if I had to go out where it was freezing and was afraid that a hobo would get in my car to be warm (I wouldn't, i have been cold with no shelter before). I wouldn't be driving this tiny rwd coupe anywhere.

Not only for safety and practical reasons, but also for love of my car.

I'd be driving some beat up 4wd, 3 mpg to the gallon tank.

Like a rover or something :P
My answer as to why applies to ALL vehicles. Even more so to a 3 mpg tank that has wiring issues and draws a small amount of current from the battery. Below freezing temperatures are not an "extreme conditions" but a mere fact of life for lots of people. Something like this is just a convenience that would be nice for some.
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