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KraftWerks · 04-23-2014, 01:08 PM

C38 kit being installed locally on an automatic.

digital_assassin · 04-23-2014, 05:51 PM

That thing looks beefy!

OICU812 · 04-25-2014, 05:50 AM

Has anyone found a thermostatically controlled oil cooler kit yet that will work with the KW kit?

KraftWerks · 04-25-2014, 05:46 PM

Here are some third party results we're not sure everyone has seen, this is with the standard C30-94 Kraftwerks Kit:
http://www.onpointdyno.com/?p=3366

"Richard’s 295whp Kraftwerks Supercharged FRS"

The first time I got my hands on a Rotrex was when Modified editor, David Pratte brought me a Kraftwerks kit to install in his Civic racecar. I couldn’t believe my eyes when the car made 400whp with that kit. Kraftwerks has done it again with their FR-S kit. From what I saw the materials used in the kit are top level, with beautifully machined and anodized pieces.

Because these ECUTek kits have locked tunes, we always recommend clients purchase the “tuner” kit, so that they don’t spend needless money on a tune file we will have to overwrite. It turns out that was the right decision for Richard, as he ended up spending a small amount more than the “tuned” kit would have cost from Kraftwerks, but received custom dyno tuning time specific to his car, his modifications and Canadian fuel and climage. Now as he makes more changes, we have the base map and can continue to work on that tune.

The car made great power, and drives wonderfully on the street. The transition from cruise to full throttle is seamless and the car has the perfect amount of power, with factory like response. This is how Toyota should have sold the car!

Freeman · 04-25-2014, 05:59 PM

I'd love to see third party results of the C38 :-)

mit_peid · 04-25-2014, 07:36 PM

According to the comments in the onpointdyno link, dyno was done on 94 octane Canadian gas. IIRC, Bill @Delicious has stated that each octane accounts for about ~8hp. From a peak of 295hp minus 24hp going from 94 octane to 91 octane you get ~271 hp. Still kind of on the high end I believe since most dynos I've seen for this kit seem to suggest headers/exhaust don't really do much. Wondering if this is on the low boost or high boost pulley...

KraftWerks · 04-25-2014, 08:29 PM

We're working on an automatic FR-S right now! We're still in the process of tuning, here are some early results! Some of you might like these numbers, don't forget we have the group-buy going right now also

-Baselined with 91 Octane, automatic with header, overpipe and exhaust.
-Kraftwerks kit has a C38 tuned on E85

Staf00 · 04-25-2014, 09:10 PM

Just wanted to ask...what led you guys to choose the C38-81 in particular, instead of say the C38-71 or C38-91/92? How much air is flowing w/ the high boost and low boost respectively, if you don't mind me asking.

Zach3794 · 04-25-2014, 09:53 PM

Had the pleasure of dealing with Joe D and Brandon over at KW customer service today. I'd been putting off requesting my cogged idler pullies and even though I didn't have the normally requested information to reference, they were able to get me taken care of promptly and efficiently. Props to them, if you guys had a review section on your site I'd leave you 5 stars, but you don't so I'll leave this here. Thanks again KW.

KraftWerks · 04-28-2014, 01:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Staf00

Just wanted to ask...what led you guys to choose the C38-81 in particular, instead of say the C38-71 or C38-91/92? How much air is flowing w/ the high boost and low boost respectively, if you don't mind me asking.

Our decision was made in testing, and comparative end cost for the end user, this was the best result.

KraftWerks · 04-28-2014, 01:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zach3794

Had the pleasure of dealing with Joe D and Brandon over at KW customer service today. I'd been putting off requesting my cogged idler pullies and even though I didn't have the normally requested information to reference, they were able to get me taken care of promptly and efficiently. Props to them, if you guys had a review section on your site I'd leave you 5 stars, but you don't so I'll leave this here. Thanks again KW.

Thanks for the kind words @Zach3794!

glamcem · 04-28-2014, 02:20 PM

I've also requested the cogged pulleys and spoken with Joe. Thanks guys

KraftWerks · 04-28-2014, 03:37 PM

Another update from ONPOINT using the standard C30-94 Kraftwerks System:
"Here are the final numbers with the KraftWerks Performance Group supercharged FRS installed by Teknotik. Made 330whp with the Meth. Detuned to 300whp with the meth to protect against a meth system failure. Tuned with EcuTek International Ltd as always using their hybrid speed density and custom map switching via the cruise control stock to toggle between 330 and 300whp meth maps, and a safe gasoline map."

rickspecd · 05-12-2014, 12:56 PM

Check out our Scion FRS with Kraftwerks Kit.

[ame="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3U-GfSjYGmU&list=UU9jNud6sBy8P5fePlwEo1-Q"]DPS Kraftwerks Powered Scion FRS Shop Car on DynoJet - YouTube[/ame]

04-23-2014, 05:51 PM	#674
digital_assassin Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2011 Drives: 2013 FR-S Matte Orange Location: Portland, OR Posts: 2,016 Thanks: 489 Thanked 937 Times in 507 Posts Mentioned: 168 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	That thing looks beefy! __________________ NORTHWEST86 DECAL - NORTHWEST86 GEAR MY BUILD

04-25-2014, 07:36 PM	#678
mit_peid Boosted Noob Join Date: Nov 2012 Drives: '13 FRS MT KW SC, '05 4Runner 4WD Location: SoCal Posts: 883 Thanks: 353 Thanked 343 Times in 175 Posts Mentioned: 7 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	According to the comments in the onpointdyno link, dyno was done on 94 octane Canadian gas. IIRC, Bill @Delicious has stated that each octane accounts for about ~8hp. From a peak of 295hp minus 24hp going from 94 octane to 91 octane you get ~271 hp. Still kind of on the high end I believe since most dynos I've seen for this kit seem to suggest headers/exhaust don't really do much. Wondering if this is on the low boost or high boost pulley... __________________

04-25-2014, 09:53 PM	#681
Zach3794 Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2013 Drives: 2013 Scion FR-S, Raven, Manual Location: Vista, CA Posts: 396 Thanks: 81 Thanked 143 Times in 101 Posts Mentioned: 8 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Had the pleasure of dealing with Joe D and Brandon over at KW customer service today. I'd been putting off requesting my cogged idler pullies and even though I didn't have the normally requested information to reference, they were able to get me taken care of promptly and efficiently. Props to them, if you guys had a review section on your site I'd leave you 5 stars, but you don't so I'll leave this here. Thanks again KW. __________________ Tuned by Delicious Tuning http://www.delicioustuning.com/node/209 Kraftwerks Supercharged

04-28-2014, 02:20 PM	#684
glamcem Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2013 Drives: 2022 BRZ Limited Location: Orange County Posts: 1,553 Thanks: 997 Thanked 607 Times in 404 Posts Mentioned: 32 Post(s) Tagged: 1 Thread(s)	I've also requested the cogged pulleys and spoken with Joe. Thanks guys __________________ 2022 BRZ Track Build (A New Chapter)

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KraftWerks Senior Member Join Date: May 2013 Drives: Kraftwerks BRZ Location: SoCal Posts: 325 Thanks: 165 Thanked 327 Times in 166 Posts Mentioned: 138 Post(s) Tagged: 1 Thread(s)	Here are some third party results we're not sure everyone has seen, this is with the standard C30-94 Kraftwerks Kit: http://www.onpointdyno.com/?p=3366 "Richard’s 295whp Kraftwerks Supercharged FRS" The first time I got my hands on a Rotrex was when Modified editor, David Pratte brought me a Kraftwerks kit to install in his Civic racecar. I couldn’t believe my eyes when the car made 400whp with that kit. Kraftwerks has done it again with their FR-S kit. From what I saw the materials used in the kit are top level, with beautifully machined and anodized pieces. Because these ECUTek kits have locked tunes, we always recommend clients purchase the “tuner” kit, so that they don’t spend needless money on a tune file we will have to overwrite. It turns out that was the right decision for Richard, as he ended up spending a small amount more than the “tuned” kit would have cost from Kraftwerks, but received custom dyno tuning time specific to his car, his modifications and Canadian fuel and climage. Now as he makes more changes, we have the base map and can continue to work on that tune. The car made great power, and drives wonderfully on the street. The transition from cruise to full throttle is seamless and the car has the perfect amount of power, with factory like response. This is how Toyota should have sold the car!

04-25-2014, 08:29 PM	#679
KraftWerks Senior Member Join Date: May 2013 Drives: Kraftwerks BRZ Location: SoCal Posts: 325 Thanks: 165 Thanked 327 Times in 166 Posts Mentioned: 138 Post(s) Tagged: 1 Thread(s)	We're working on an automatic FR-S right now! We're still in the process of tuning, here are some early results! Some of you might like these numbers, don't forget we have the group-buy going right now also -Baselined with 91 Octane, automatic with header, overpipe and exhaust. -Kraftwerks kit has a C38 tuned on E85

04-25-2014, 09:10 PM	#680
Staf00 Member Join Date: Mar 2013 Drives: SWP DZE Location: SoCal Posts: 31 Thanks: 12 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Just wanted to ask...what led you guys to choose the C38-81 in particular, instead of say the C38-71 or C38-91/92? How much air is flowing w/ the high boost and low boost respectively, if you don't mind me asking.

04-28-2014, 03:37 PM	#685
KraftWerks Senior Member Join Date: May 2013 Drives: Kraftwerks BRZ Location: SoCal Posts: 325 Thanks: 165 Thanked 327 Times in 166 Posts Mentioned: 138 Post(s) Tagged: 1 Thread(s)	Another update from ONPOINT using the standard C30-94 Kraftwerks System: "Here are the final numbers with the KraftWerks Performance Group supercharged FRS installed by Teknotik. Made 330whp with the Meth. Detuned to 300whp with the meth to protect against a meth system failure. Tuned with EcuTek International Ltd as always using their hybrid speed density and custom map switching via the cruise control stock to toggle between 330 and 300whp meth maps, and a safe gasoline map."

05-12-2014, 12:56 PM	#686
rickspecd Join Date: Jun 2013 Drives: 2013 Scion FRS Location: Philadelphia Posts: 201 Thanks: 5 Thanked 26 Times in 17 Posts Mentioned: 4 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Check out our Scion FRS with Kraftwerks Kit. [ame="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3U-GfSjYGmU&list=UU9jNud6sBy8P5fePlwEo1-Q"]DPS Kraftwerks Powered Scion FRS Shop Car on DynoJet - YouTube[/ame]

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