2015 Subaru WRX Sti

[chrisl]

Originally Posted by Whitigir

seriously, I am cross-shopping on those two, and to be honest Q50 Hybrid AWD can pull 4.9 0-60 all day long.

If you're looking at that car, why not compare it to a 335ix, S4, or IS-350 F-sport? They're much more direct competition to the Q50. The STi is in a completely different class of car - less expensive, more performance oriented, and less comfort oriented (which will be very obvious if you put them on an actual track, rather than just looking at 0-60 times).

[kuhlka]

Originally Posted by Whitigir

seriously, I am cross-shopping on those two, and to be honest Q50 Hybrid AWD can pull 4.9 0-60 all day long.

It may be 10k more, but take the STI do the tune, upgrades, and you are almost out 10k, without luxury.

STI will hurt ya back to DD it every day, Bumpy pavements = BADDD

Q50 is different, it is in the sweet spots of the two.

I've got an 05 STI and DD it all the time. Unless you swap out to stiff bushings and coilovers, it's much softer than the BRZ in stock form. The hatchbacks are very mushy and have a lot of sound deadening material. Haven't had the opportunity to drive the latest gen.

Turn off the AUTO DCCD (full rear) and launch it like you've got a pair. You'll do better than this video shows. Looks and sounds like the driver was failing at using the clutch. Hell, a 2nd gear launch would probably garner a better 0-60.

What do you need to spend 10k for? Intake, exhaust, and tune shouldn't be more than $5k. IMO, the STI is fantastic stock. If you feel you'd need to spend 10k to be happy with the STI, get a different car (or maybe spend that money on track time so you can juice the most out of the STI). SCCA events are dirt cheap. My car easily does 150+ with just a K&N short ram intake. Destroys most cars to 60 (especially in the rain), and is stupid fun in the snow. As far as luxury goes, the early STIs didn't even come with a head unit or speakers. The latest car is 'luxurious' by comparison.

You buy an STI for the fantastic AWD, upgraded engine, and on-rails handing out of the box. There are tons of cheaper drag cars out there if all you care about is straight line handling. My Diavel does 0-60 in ~2.7s with no upgrades and low tens in the quarter for nearly half the price.

[kuhlka]

Long story short. If you're buying an STI to drag race and don't want to spend a bunch of money to hang with lighter RWD cars with more power... YOU'RE DOING IT WRONG.

[OrbitalEllipses]

Originally Posted by kuhlka

Long story short. If you're buying an STI to drag race and don't want to spend a bunch of money to hang with lighter RWD cars with more power... YOU'RE DOING IT WRONG.

Amen brother.

[Whitigir]

Originally Posted by OrbitalEllipses

Dude, what upgrades? More power to get 0-60 times down? I don't think you quite understand... the STI will outrun it everywhere except the 0-60. Even in a 1/4 mile if that's your thing.

Q50S Hybrid AWD: $48.5K, 360HP (net), 4,145 lbs, 11.51:1. You're now $14K more than a base STI and you're weight:power is STILL not as good. 0-60 seems to be the only thing that's important to you when it's a useless stat.


"STI hurts my back, I need luxury!" Seriously, why are you even looking at the STI? You want a Q50S, go look at an A4 or something.

Thanks for all of you guys inputs. Why do i look at these STI, Q50, IS350 F, Evo X. I basically am looking for a Family Sport Sedan vehicle to replace my BORING Camry.

The Q50s Hybrid with Navigation will be 48.5k. The same as the STI would be 38.5 or so with remote start....etc similar. So Q50s will only be 10k away.

A4...Audi and Bmw and Mer are all Germain....with stupid reliability...so no thanks.

Yeah, it seems that nowadays, I dont have enough time to pull of SCCA day anymore, just back road carving, and passing power, with a Sedan X_X

[daiheadjai]

I came here to experience a text video.

What I got were pictures.

You lied to me.

[OrbitalEllipses]

Originally Posted by Whitigir

Thanks for all of you guys inputs. Why do i look at these STI, Q50, IS350 F, Evo X. I basically am looking for a Family Sport Sedan vehicle to replace my BORING Camry.

The Q50s Hybrid with Navigation will be 48.5k. The same as the STI would be 38.5 or so with remote start....etc similar. So Q50s will only be 10k away.

A4...Audi and Bmw and Mer are all Germain....with stupid reliability...so no thanks.

Yeah, it seems that nowadays, I dont have enough time to pull of SCCA day anymore, just back road carving, and passing power, with a Sedan X_X

Chevy SS. BMW M3. Audi S4.

IS350 RWD F-Sport? $43.6K, 306hp, 3,593lbs, 11.74:1.
AWD F Sport? $45.4K, 306hp, 3,737lbs, 12.21:1.

[Whitigir]

Yeah the IS-350 AWD F-sport is also in a heavy competition in my mind. What I am weighing against are

Is = slower 0-60, snappy, better brake and steering responsiveness, great adaptive suspension

Q50 Hybrid = Faster 0-60, not as snappy, but also fast, not as good steering and brake responsiveness, no adaptive suspension.. ? But has good MPG, is a Hybrid

Both are in a very similar price range. Though I have always been a Lexus fan, but I can not help but pay attention to the Q50s. I was hoping for the IS300H to be a bit different...but nah...worse than Q50H

STI = very Boy-racer....mod friendly....cheaper price like many people say. So, I am asking myself, which one I want for a DD. Ofcourse, if I decide STI is a better one, I may just do WRX for the new 2.0 turbo FA20..that is even cheaper.

But I guess, what I want = IS offers it the most, I just want it to be a bit faster....but well, it is the way it is, and not much of a gas saver. That is where the Q50H comes to

For what Q50H has, it is comparable to the GS450H which is 60k+ from Lexus. That is what I am leaning forward

[ubersoph]

If you want a DD, why would you pick the STI over a WRX? By all accounts the WRX has a smoother powerband, will ride a little nicer, is still really fun to drive, is more subtle looking, gets better gas mileage, and seems to get a slightly faster 0-60 time (CnD got 4.9 launching).

The STI makes sense if the car is going to see track time, but if you have a 2nd car or will be not be doing track days/autocrosses why bother?

[frslee]

This looks like youtube comments. Arguing this is faster than that.

[n2oinferno]

Originally Posted by frslee

This looks like youtube comments. Arguing this is faster than that.

Maybe your this. My that is modified with a wing and stickers and superturbo. Therefore this that is much faster than that this.

[Porsche]

Originally Posted by n2oinferno

Maybe your this. My that is modified with a wing and stickers and superturbo. Therefore this that is much faster than that this.

LOL!

That was quite good. Remarkable, actually.

Have you considered a career in the law?

[midnight23]

Don't forget, Subaru's tune on the wrx and sti are extremely underdone, add a 3" turboback and tune (1k-2k) and you're looking at totally different power and times for far less.

[n2oinferno]

Originally Posted by Porsche

LOL!

That was quite good. Remarkable, actually.

Have you considered a career in the law?

Hah, if I hadn't already gotten a degree in a computer field I probably would have. IP law is fascinating.