Advanced Keys Push to Start Install in progress For the FRS.

[milkesfrs]

Originally Posted by Brianbajnauth

I just finish hooking up my viper 5704 today. The only way to get the power unlocks/ lock is to tap into those same wires that you stated and to disable the factory alarm. The trunk poper, door unlock/lock, the remote starter, everything works perfect!!! Thank god! Only thing left to do is to hook up my window module. Btw can I get both left and
Right side window motor from the driver side door
Panel? If so what color wires?

You will need to hook up the wires from your window module to the diver side widow controller. ( PIC is at the bottom. )

There are basically three types of power window systems used in
automobiles at this time. The differences between the three are as
follows.

Type A:
The power window control switches for a type A window system
never change polarity when the ignition key is turned on. The
switches in a type A system either rest at ground or rest open (no
connection). The switches in a type A system will either switch
+12 volts and ground at the same time to achieve up or down
window motor polarity, or both wires will be resting at ground
and when the window switch is activated, one wire will switch to
+12 volts while the second wire will remain grounded (Same as a
5 wire power door lock system). In all variations of the type A
system, the power window control switches always provide +12
volt output to operate the window motors.

Type B:
The power window control switches in a type B system change
polarity when the ignition key is turned on. The wires in a type B
system will rest at ground until the ignition key is turned on.
Once the ignition key is turned on, the wires will be resting at
+12 volts. When the ignition key is turned on and the window
switch is activated, the window switch will provide a ground
signal to the window motor. (Just the reverse of a type A system).
For the type B system, two additional relays must be added to
reverse the polarity of the switched ground output wires.

Type C:
The power window control switches in a type C system are the
same as in a type A system with one exception. The window
motors in a type C system are grounded by the motor housing
and use two different coil windings to run the window motor up
and down. Type C window systems are rare but it is important to
make a simple test to insure that the vehicle you are working on
does not use the type C window system.

I am not sure what type of system the FRS uses. I think its Type A but you will have to do some testing.
Using a voltmeter, test and locate the Up + and
Down + wires provided by the window control switches for both
the drivers and passengers window. If you get UP - and Down - you will need 2 relays . Then follow your install instructions that came with your Viper 5704

[Brianbajnauth]

Originally Posted by milkesfrs

You will need to hook up the wires from your window module to the diver side widow controller. ( PIC is at the bottom. )

There are basically three types of power window systems used in
automobiles at this time. The differences between the three are as
follows.

Type A:
The power window control switches for a type A window system
never change polarity when the ignition key is turned on. The
switches in a type A system either rest at ground or rest open (no
connection). The switches in a type A system will either switch
+12 volts and ground at the same time to achieve up or down
window motor polarity, or both wires will be resting at ground
and when the window switch is activated, one wire will switch to
+12 volts while the second wire will remain grounded (Same as a
5 wire power door lock system). In all variations of the type A
system, the power window control switches always provide +12
volt output to operate the window motors.

Type B:
The power window control switches in a type B system change
polarity when the ignition key is turned on. The wires in a type B
system will rest at ground until the ignition key is turned on.
Once the ignition key is turned on, the wires will be resting at
+12 volts. When the ignition key is turned on and the window
switch is activated, the window switch will provide a ground
signal to the window motor. (Just the reverse of a type A system).
For the type B system, two additional relays must be added to
reverse the polarity of the switched ground output wires.

Type C:
The power window control switches in a type C system are the
same as in a type A system with one exception. The window
motors in a type C system are grounded by the motor housing
and use two different coil windings to run the window motor up
and down. Type C window systems are rare but it is important to
make a simple test to insure that the vehicle you are working on
does not use the type C window system.

I am not sure what type of system the FRS uses. I think its Type A but you will have to do some testing.
Using a voltmeter, test and locate the Up + and
Down + wires provided by the window control switches for both
the drivers and passengers window. If you get UP - and Down - you will need 2 relays . Then follow your install instructions that came with your Viper 5704

Can a Bosch style relay work?

[milkesfrs]

Originally Posted by Brianbajnauth

Can a Bosch style relay work?

Yes, the Bosch is fine. Hook up the relay this way if its a - type B setup.

Trigger (+) from the viper to the # 86 on the relay

# 30 & 85 from the relay to any ground on the FRS

# 87 from the relay to 1 of the door window wires.

[Lo]

This may be a tad off topic, but I was wondering from your experience with the install of the Advanced Keys product on your FR-S, would you think/believe it would be possible to simply use the Advanced Keys key fob on a Limited BRZ.

What I really find interesting is the "credit card size" design in their key fob. Seems more interesting than having a bump in your front pocket. I'm sure this sounds incredibly stupid for most, but wtv. I would like to have my key in my wallet at all times. Would add to the pleasure of having keyless entry.

[milkesfrs]

Yes, you could use the same set up on your BRZ . Wires are the same

[Lo]

I think you might have misunderstood what I meant.

I didn't mean to ask if it would be possible to install the same set up. I meant to ask :

Is it possible, in your opinion, to just switch the BRZ limited's key fob for the AK key fob?

Thanks for giving me your opinion and sorry for the slight thread jacking

[Brianbajnauth]

Originally Posted by milkesfrs

Yes, the Bosch is fine. Hook up the relay this way if its a - type B setup.

Trigger (+) from the viper to the # 86 on the relay

# 30 & 85 from the relay to any ground on the FRS

# 87 from the relay to 1 of the door window wires.

The aux 2 on the viper 5704 is a negative pulse. I think? Would it still work thought or do I need a steady (-) when I hold down the button?

[milkesfrs]

Originally Posted by Brianbajnauth

The aux 2 on the viper 5704 is a negative pulse. I think? Would it still work thought or do I need a steady (-) when I hold down the button?

When the Aux 2 command is received the wire will turn on and remain on until the command is received again or the ignition is turned on/off. I would use the H2/2 wire from the viper. Hook that wire up to a relay. Now I dont know like i said if the FRS has a + or - window switch. My FRS got hit and is in the shop for repairs so I cant check. If your not sure dont hook up H2/2 without the relay or you might blow your viper 5704 unit.

[milkesfrs]

Originally Posted by Lo

I think you might have misunderstood what I meant.

I didn't mean to ask if it would be possible to install the same set up. I meant to ask :

Is it possible, in your opinion, to just switch the BRZ limited's key fob for the AK key fob?

Thanks for giving me your opinion and sorry for the slight thread jacking

Sorry no, you would have to switch it all over. Not worth it. To many wires!!!

[Sniper2606]

Jesus all that work for just a push to start?

Well everybody has their flavor.

I would of got a BRZ limited.

Regardless goob job

[kmbkk]

Originally Posted by Sniper2606

Jesus all that work for just a push to start?

Well everybody has their flavor.

I would of got a BRZ limited.

Regardless goob job

It also does remote start and functions as an alarm.

[phanguy]

Originally Posted by Sniper2606

Jesus all that work for just a push to start?

Well everybody has their flavor.

I would of got a BRZ limited.

Regardless goob job

at the time the limited was way too hard for me to get (july 2012) so i went with the fr-s. i'm glad i did. it was more time for me to enjoy the car rather than waiting until the subaru dealership would have any(they were saying i could probably get one by february 2013) plus i love the front bumper of the fr-s and prefer the five axis spoiler i have to the limited spoiler. if i were a person that had a limited then i may have to spend time doing a trunk swap with someone and a bunch of money just to get the front end of the fr-s which could easily cost more than the parts for this push to start. also like someone else mentioned, this has more functionality than the limiteds push to start.

plus modding is fun.

[Brianbajnauth]

Originally Posted by milkesfrs

When the Aux 2 command is received the wire will turn on and remain on until the command is received again or the ignition is turned on/off. I would use the H2/2 wire from the viper. Hook that wire up to a relay. Now I dont know like i said if the FRS has a + or - window switch. My FRS got hit and is in the shop for repairs so I cant check. If your not sure dont hook up H2/2 without the relay or you might blow your viper 5704 unit.

Thanks working perfect👌👌👌!!!
The only thing im having problems with is the door unlock and lock. It locks and unlocks but after a couple of mins it doesn't unlock or lock. The lights flash but doesn't unlock/lock. Any solutions?

[Brianbajnauth]

Originally Posted by milkesfrs

When the Aux 2 command is received the wire will turn on and remain on until the command is received again or the ignition is turned on/off. I would use the H2/2 wire from the viper. Hook that wire up to a relay. Now I dont know like i said if the FRS has a + or - window switch. My FRS got hit and is in the shop for repairs so I cant check. If your not sure dont hook up H2/2 without the relay or you might blow your viper 5704 unit.

And also the trunk popper. After a few mins of sitting it doesn't work