FINALLY, a steering wheel remote kit we can use that isn't DIY

[mid_life_crisis]

Originally Posted by SirBrass

At least we have a control unit that can mount to the column without being awkward, even if the electronics after it are entirely DIY. That much is worth something.

If the right unit is selected, it won't be as bad as all that. We just need to pick one for a car that uses a three wire resistor connection, like the one nalc found, the 2013 Impreza. That car even uses the same resistor values.
After that it is just a matter of connecting the wires.

Originally Posted by SirBrass

I'm going to have my audio installer do the universal stalk for the Sony 701HD I want to get. I like touch screens, but when it comes to audio adjustment and track/freq changing while on the move, I want physical buttons (even if they're soft keys on the HU), not on-screen soft keys.

This should be mind-numbingly easy. A modern aftermarket H/U should be recognized by the box and set up automatically. Impressively plug and play.

[SirBrass]

Yup, indeed. The Axxess will do it automatically. The only thing I lack are the tools to do the mounting.

[Jive Turkey]

i want this. which one will work with a BRZ, i'll gladly buy, install and mount.

i'd prefer the one that mounts to the wheel, not the stalk, i'd end up cutting that apart and mounting somewhere easy to access by me.

[laguayo]

Anyone know any similar SWC from another vehicle that would match the same resistance values needed by the brz? I just need that little black box with the switches and I could basically mount switches anywhere. The stalk sounds like too much $$$ for the little black box.

[mid_life_crisis]

Originally Posted by Jive Turkey

i want this. which one will work with a BRZ, i'll gladly buy, install and mount.

i'd prefer the one that mounts to the wheel, not the stalk, i'd end up cutting that apart and mounting somewhere easy to access by me.

I was looking at that one, which also has more controls on it, by the way, and wondered if the strap was long enough to mount to a spoke instead of the rim of the steering wheel. If so, could it be operated with a thumb?

[mid_life_crisis]

Originally Posted by laguayo

Anyone know any similar SWC from another vehicle that would match the same resistance values needed by the brz? I just need that little black box with the switches and I could basically mount switches anywhere. The stalk sounds like too much $$$ for the little black box.

There is no little black box in the cars that use a similar setup. The box is needed here because it is taking a signal from the stalk and converting it to a different type of signal. The cars don't need that conversion between the factory SWCs and the factory H/U.

Factory to factory - no box needed.
Factory to aftermarket - needs electronic box.
Aftermarket to aftermarket - needs electronic box.
In the case of the twins a factory H/U to simple momentary switches needs a home made black box with a resistor array in it.

Read these:
http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=39244
http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=44827
http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=51941

Note that the pin # discrepancy is just due to perspective. Are you looking at the port on the back of the H/U or at the end of the plug that gets inserted?

[nocturne1]

I'd even love to put just a next/previous track button on the panel trim just to the left of the radio.

[mid_life_crisis]

Originally Posted by nocturne1

I'd even love to put just a next/previous track button on the panel trim just to the left of the radio.

Very easy to do. Hardest part is making a nice cutout.
The BRZ only has touchscreen buttons for that?
Damn, and I'm ticked off because the FR-S unit doesn't have a mode button.

[laguayo]

Originally Posted by mid_life_crisis

There is no little black box in the cars that use a similar setup. The box is needed here because it is taking a signal from the stalk and converting it to a different type of signal. The cars don't need that conversion between the factory SWCs and the factory H/U.

Factory to factory - no box needed.
Factory to aftermarket - needs electronic box.
Aftermarket to aftermarket - needs electronic box.
In the case of the twins a factory H/U to simple momentary switches needs a home made black box with a resistor array in it.

Read these:
http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=39244
http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=44827
http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=51941

Note that the pin # discrepancy is just due to perspective. Are you looking at the port on the back of the H/U or at the end of the plug that gets inserted?

Thanks I've read through most of those post I was just wondering if anyone knew any other OEM SWC I could get cheaper than the axxiss and was hoping to avoid having to make my own solution.

This is the post http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showp...5&postcount=42 that really blew my mind.

But given the simplicity I might just build my own.

[mid_life_crisis]

Originally Posted by laguayo

Thanks I've read through most of those post I was just wondering if anyone knew any other OEM SWC I could get cheaper than the axxiss and was hoping to avoid having to make my own solution.

This is the post http://"http://www.ft86club.com/foru...5&postcount=42 that really blew my mind.

But given the simplicity I might just build my own.

If this is the post I think it is, don't forget that it isn't 6,7,8: it is 20,21,22. It can get extra confusing because 6,7,8 are directly above 20,21,22.
I would read post #2 carefully before building my own.

[nalc]

Originally Posted by laguayo

Anyone know any similar SWC from another vehicle that would match the same resistance values needed by the brz? I just need that little black box with the switches and I could basically mount switches anywhere. The stalk sounds like too much $$$ for the little black box.

2012+ Impreza SWCs are plug and play.

Based on investigation in another thread, it sounds like there is a possibility that most Toyota SWCs, while they don't have exactly the right values for the Subaru, are close enough that they'd still work properly, but I haven't tested.

Current gen Legacy SWCs are compatible if you're willing to do some surface mount soldering. I've got a standing offer to anyone who is gung ho enough to try it - I'll mail you all the resistors you need, for free. I ordered them all and did the conversion and I've got 100 of each value.

Originally Posted by nocturne1

I'd even love to put just a next/previous track button on the panel trim just to the left of the radio.

That's simple enough to do. Two resistors and a double pole momentary rocker.

[mid_life_crisis]

Originally Posted by nalc

2012+ Impreza SWCs are plug and play.

Based on investigation in another thread, it sounds like there is a possibility that most Toyota SWCs, while they don't have exactly the right values for the Subaru, are close enough that they'd still work properly, but I haven't tested.

If you are referencing my thread, the resistors on the board are effectively the same as what you found. The value I quoted is the total for each switch, not the individual resistors. Remember, each switch uses all the resistors below it, so the value working on the switch is more than the resistor it is connected directly to.
You might reread post #2, where I summarized my findings.
Of course these values might be unique to the new Scions, I don't know.

[nalc]

Originally Posted by mid_life_crisis

If you are referencing my thread, the resistors on the board are effectively the same as what you found. The value I quoted is the total for each switch, not the individual resistors. Remember, each switch uses all the resistors below it, so the value working on the switch is more than the resistor it is connected directly to.
You might reread post #2, where I summarized my findings.
Of course these values might be unique to the new Scions, I don't know.

No, they're not the same, because I quoted the total for each switch as well. It just so happens that the total for the Subaru switches seems to be about the same as the increment for the Toyota switch. So when you posted the increments, and they were the same as the totals I posted, I think you thought that I had posted increments too.

The BRZ is

0
0 + 330 = 330
330 + 670 = 1000
330 + 670 + 2110 = 3110

Your post is this:

0
0 + 330 = 330
330 + 1000 = 1.3K
1300 + 3110 = 4.7K

However, the tolerance band on the HU is big enough that either will work. I'm just pointing out that your measured values don't match the BRZ shop manual, I think the confusion is because your increments happened to match my totals.

[mid_life_crisis]

Originally Posted by nalc

No, they're not the same, because I quoted the total for each switch as well. It just so happens that the total for the Subaru switches seems to be about the same as the increment for the Toyota switch. So when you posted the increments, and they were the same as the totals I posted, I think you thought that I had posted increments too.

The BRZ is

0
0 + 330 = 330
330 + 670 = 1000
330 + 670 + 2110 = 3110

Your post is this:

0
0 + 330 = 330
330 + 1000 = 1.3K
1300 + 3110 = 4.7K

However, the tolerance band on the HU is big enough that either will work. I'm just pointing out that your measured values don't match the BRZ shop manual, I think the confusion is because your increments happened to match my totals.

I have yet to find an official document listing the values for a Scion. Mine are based on testing and shop manual values for another Toyota, I don't know which. For all I know, the 2014 Scions could all use the same values as the BRZ.