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Old 12-13-2013, 09:57 AM   #71
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No, a good buddy that I race with has one, and yes it's fast and fancy and nice, but it still essentially drives itself. You just point it where to go.

I know no one is forcing anyone to use the technology, but really... It is a useless mod for a manual transmission car.
You're probably right. Actually i'm pretty sure you're right. It really is just me wanting to try it out. If it was a simple add-on it would be nice to have it as an option.
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Old 12-13-2013, 10:04 AM   #72
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i'd rather the time be put into a speed density implementation
that, or flex fuel kit. because all said in this thread http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=53409 is correct and while there was no mentioning of OFT i still felt like it is indirectly pointed at super popular OFT and its free e85 tunes (maybe i'm just getting paranoid hearing that same song from tuners all the time - EcuTek).
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Old 12-13-2013, 10:05 AM   #73
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It really is just me wanting to try it out.
take a spin in a 370z at the dealership
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Old 12-13-2013, 10:15 AM   #74
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that, or flex fuel kit. because all said in this thread http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=53409 is correct and while there was no mentioning of OFT i still felt like it is indirectly pointed at super popular OFT and its free e85 tunes (maybe i'm just getting paranoid hearing that same song from tuners all the time - EcuTek).
Well that E-flex vs E85 thread didn't need to single out any tuning solution as Motec and most *stand alones could do it, creating a thread on SD when the opposite camp couldn't contribute, indicated broken forum rule whilst doing the same but only the other camp got banned.
You draw the lines between the dots man.
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There is a lot of sensationalism currently going around for sure. Flex fuel is not a requirement to enjoy e85. It makes it easier, presuming it's calibrated correctly and all that, but it's not like checking trims and tweaking a couple scalers is rocket science or hard work. It has other advantages like ethanol content-dependent boost and timing that are great, again if set up properly. I don't debate it's a nice to have, but it's certainly not a necessity.

That pales in comparison to some of the other misinformation flowing around here though. Someone said just recently that only ecutek could control port to di ratio lol.

edit: just realized that ecutek users can't actually edit the tune to fix it. so, i guess they create their own necessity there . in any case, if you have excel and some free time you're good to go with OFT/open source.
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Old 12-13-2013, 10:56 AM   #76
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Well that E-flex vs E85 thread didn't need to single out any tuning solution as Motec and most *stand alones could do it, creating a thread on SD when the opposite camp couldn't contribute, indicated broken forum rule whilst doing the same but only the other camp got banned.
You draw the lines between the dots man.
I think there are several ECUtek tuners that given the ability of using SD and flexfuel would gladly use OFT as their flashing medium. There are those that will not because it doesn't offer the ability to lock down their tunes, despite the fact anyone in the market for a custom tune understands that using another persons custom tune doesn't make sense. What is semi frustrating is the intentionally misleading ramblings of people who are ECUtek supporters who try to compare two completely different things. Not sure why they feel the need to drag OFT's name through the dirt because most of the posts I've seen from OFT users have had good things to say about ECUtek in some areas, just not the locking of tune files and the almost constant statements saying that OFT CAN'T do something because it doesn't support an unnecessary feature.

Regardless, I'm loving the pace of the development on the OFT side of things. I imagine it won't be terribly long before we start seeing OTS maps for turbo kits and tuners realizing the way of the market is moving to a more open source trend.
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Old 12-13-2013, 10:59 AM   #77
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I was unaware AVO had signed any deals with any F1 teams to provide turbos for next season. This is amazing news.
My apologies. I meant FI or Forced Induction not F1... Cheers..
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Old 12-13-2013, 11:12 AM   #78
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Shiv, I know you generally run stock intake plus drop in filter with a modified snorkel (one of the first things I did to my car), but I also notice you're selling perrin intake stuff. Have you compared the inlet hose to stock on a dyno with factory box and snorkel mod?
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Old 12-13-2013, 12:23 PM   #79
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any chance of uel and el tunes for pump gas?
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That pales in comparison to some of the other misinformation flowing around here though. Someone said just recently that only ecutek could control port to di ratio lol.
"The Bullshit Epidemic: Call it when you see it."

i can recall seeing something like this, is this the one:

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Just realize you have 8 injectors, not 4. There is a way to run them both with EcuTeK RaceROM, as you need the custom mapping to be able to run 8 injectors versus 4. Basically I found a way to do it.
well, i'm just thankful that floating around popular myth that anything beyond 250HP would require a bigger pump or injectors or both has been proven wrong. I remember tuners would suggest pump or injectors upgrade even for a base innovate kit.

back on topic - eagerly awaiting shiv's FI tunes to prove all the naysayers wrong

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"The Bullshit Epidemic: Call it when you see it."

i can recall seeing something like this, is this the one:

well, i'm just thankful that floating around popular myth that anything beyond 250HP would require a bigger pump or injectors or both has been proven wrong. I remember tuners would suggest pump or injectors upgrade even for a base innovate kit.

back on topic - eagerly awaiting shiv's FI tunes to prove all the naysayers wrong

i 'found a way' to run all 8 injectors on my car too, it involved turning the key and pulling out of my driveway lol. yes that is the one.

of course the reality is that anything that can edit a stock rom can control port/di ratio.

as for OTS turbo kit maps, that may be a bit difficult, or you may have to rely on users to do a bit more of the setup part. turbo owners usually have all sorts of different map sensors and injector sizes, maf configuration is a much bigger deal, etc. of course being an open platform, none of this is an issue to just set up yourself.
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flex tunes certainly have advantages over just a straight e85 tune. However, for my needs I'd prefer not to invest the money or introduce the added complexity to the car that would be required to do flex fuel. But I'm not making big power or going FI, just running e85 to make that extra oomph that the car really begs for. It's a minor hassle having to check trims and adjust as needed, but if I was running a flex kit I'd likely be just as cautious and do plenty of logging...plus I'd be more reliant on a 3rd party tuner, and additional sensors added to the vehicle, etc.

I'll just simplify and say that e85 isn't for everyone. It takes more effort to find, more effort to test, and you can never feel as confident with each fill that it will be the same as the last time. No matter which route you take, it's extra work and/or money.
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Shiv, this new website is killing me! I see that you now offer a custom tuning service which is huge. However, each time i click the link to read about the features and cost it directs me to the wrong page! Care to discuss here this new feature?
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Shiv, this new website is killing me! I see that you now offer a custom tuning service which is huge. However, each time i click the link to read about the features and cost it directs me to the wrong page! Care to discuss here this new feature?
Could you tell me which page redirects you? I can quickly fix it.
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