Innovate (Sprintex) Supercharger Owners Topic

[s2d4]

Originally Posted by OICU812

So even with inter cooler but higher temp by 10 deg C you lost 10+ whp? While it's obvious the intercooler helps but questionable just "how much".

Well, the only way to know is have one precharger and postcharger, then compare that between non-intercooled and intercooled.

The w2a setup in my MR2 has shown to be effective for +50 celcius improvement on a 20 mins track session and that's on a highly inefficient 80s roots blower. Granted I have a massive reservoir in that, nothing you guys can't do by utilising the space left over from going with a smaller battery.

[Kodename47]

Originally Posted by s2d4

Granted I have a massive reservoir in that, nothing you guys can't do by utilising the space left over from going with a smaller battery.

I don't think the capacity is the issue, but an improved core may improve things one turning up the boost.

[s2d4]

Originally Posted by Kodename47

I don't think the capacity is the issue, but an improved core may improve things one turning up the boost.

This is all I am using

And just a tiny 350hp rated intercooler on frozenboost.
So yeah, pretty confident the reservoir size has massive benefits.

[Kodename47]

It may well do on the Roots setup, but my tuner reckons that the temps stabilize quickly and therefore the capacity isn't an issue. I suggested I may do mine and he said he didn't see much benefit, it certainly wouldn't see a worthwhile power change. However a more efficient core inside the manifold may help reduce intake temps.

[s2d4]

Originally Posted by Kodename47

It may well do on the Roots setup, but my tuner reckons that the temps stabilize quickly and therefore the capacity isn't an issue. I suggested I may do mine and he said he didn't see much benefit, it certainly wouldn't see a worthwhile power change. However a more efficient core inside the manifold may help reduce intake temps.

Well roots type run a whole lot hotter, I've seen over 100 degrees Celsius after charger. Highest temp after w2a was 52 degrees over an entire track day.

In any case, more liquid takes longer to heat up. With the right size heat exchanger per fluid ratio, it'll make it even harder to heat soak with more fluid.

Are laminova cores really that bad compared to the conventional design? Mine is just some China unknown eBay special...

[calispec]

Something I have been doing to track the performance of my car is use Virtual Dyno. The magnitude might not be correct but you can clearly see the difference. This will also fix any problems with cooling when you are on a stationary dyno so you can see more "real life" results. Here is a post from my build page proving that this program is actually consistent and repeatable.

Originally Posted by calispec

So here are some tests that I did to verify that Virtual Dyno was at least repeatable and to see if my road was flat lol.


The first graph is 4 runs, all on the first tuner. Some of the variance could be because I wasn't starting exactly on the same spot, but close. I took them in alternating fashion. East 1 West 1 East 2 West 2.


As you can see my road is a little east bias. Its close enough for me. I could take the average of the two runs and see where that got me but I am not that concerned. It proved to me that the results were repeatable. Each run was made with about a 5 minute down time to let the vehicle cool. Its not perfect I know but its better than paying for dyno time. IMHO!


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The second graph shows again how my road is east bias. Both are the Delicious Tune.

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If I get another chance I'll head out to mexico again and do 6 or 8 runs to get some more data.

I don't have the charge cooler and it's too cold to do anything here so more data is going to have to wait till spring but once I get the cooler I WILL be collecting a LOT.

[Ryan86]

What is the best way to check if the charger is leaking?

I did a few runs against a stock 86 in 3rd gear from 3000rpm and the stock 86 pulled away until I reached 5000rpm where I pulled it back in and overtook it.
Not a happy chappie

[Kodename47]

Originally Posted by Ryan86

What is the best way to check if the charger is leaking?

I did a few runs against a stock 86 in 3rd gear from 3000rpm and the stock 86 pulled away until I reached 5000rpm where I pulled it back in and overtook it.
Not a happy chappie

Have you got no way of monitoring/logging what is going on? Doesn't seem like you're having the best of luck. Do you trust your tuner as really you should be discussing things over with them?

[EAGLE5]

Originally Posted by Kodename47

Have you got no way of monitoring/logging what is going on? Doesn't seem like you're having the best of luck. Do you trust your tuner as really you should be discussing things over with them?

He's using Delicious. My guess is the other guy was in first or second second.

[Ryan86]

Correct I'm using Delicious and have discussed this and sent the video.
The other guy claims he was in 3rd, I too presumed he cheated and dropped into 2nd as the way he pulled away from me just Did not make sense.

Bill said to check for leaks at the back of the Charger, so hence I asked what I could use to check if there is a leak, as I can't feel anything.

[ft_sjo]

You need to hook up a compressor to the intake somewhere, probably onto the throttle body would be easiest. Regulate the air up to about 1 bar should be adequate.

In your ambient heat though, if the ECU is mapped correctly, it will start to reduce power based on high air charge temperatures.

[Calum]

Originally Posted by Ryan86

Correct I'm using Delicious and have discussed this and sent the video.
The other guy claims he was in 3rd, I too presumed he cheated and dropped into 2nd as the way he pulled away from me just Did not make sense.

Bill said to check for leaks at the back of the Charger, so hence I asked what I could use to check if there is a leak, as I can't feel anything.

Dish soap mixed with water in a spray bottle. It will make bubbles if there's an air leak.

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[sw20kosh]

Trying to get a groupbuy going for FA20club's Sweet Twin Screw Aluminum Intake System.

Please PM me if you are seriously interested in getting one of these. If I can get 5 people the price is $299.00 each and a ship date of first week of december.

[lbroskee]

Originally Posted by sw20kosh

Trying to get a groupbuy going for FA20club's Sweet Twin Screw Aluminum Intake System.

Please PM me if you are seriously interested in getting one of these. If I can get 5 people the price is $299.00 each and a ship date of first week of december.

for the entire pipe or just the part thats lil perrins?

really wish i have the money for the kit already. prepping for show problems lol