I'm torn, local Scion dealership needs to get it's act together...

[bkblitzed]

if i was to do this all over again, honestly i think i would have gotten an s2000. More reliable for track duty

[SkAsphalt]

Sigh.....

[strat61caster]

Go on test drives, figure out what gets YOUR motor running. Just because you have a TC now doesn't mean the FRS is the right car for you. It's a fortunate time right now, there's a lot of affordable options from RX8's to S2000's to Mustangs to used Corvettes and Caymans, hell you could be driving home in a < $5k miata this weekend and it could be the perfect car for you, we really don't know what is best for you.

[Vincenttam]

Originally Posted by Badasi12b

As bad as I want this car, I need to fight the urge to buy the 2014 Camaro! I have been wanting this car for awhile now and have been upset on how long it's taking the local dealerships to get in the 2014 models. And it does bother me that they keep insisting to sell me a 2013 instead. I was sold on waiting until i read the BASE model Camaro specs... Standard Nav, remote start, HUD windshield information, 324hp, etc... ALL for $23,000!!! I'm going to wait a little while longer for my local dealership to get these cars in, but it will be hard. I'm loyal to foreign car makers so that's keeping me around some.

Just email all the dealerships within a 25 mile radius from you. Thats what i did, i was getting emails and calls for a month from them begging me to set up an appointment. Here in socal, we got our 2014 models in on october. As soon as it came in, they called me at 8am in the morning and asked me if i would like to schedule an appointment and test drive their ultramarine manuel transmission car with nothing added in. It was too late lol, i got an amazing clearance deal on my 2013 model <3

[Anthony]

Originally Posted by Badasi12b

Standard Nav, remote start, HUD windshield information, 324hp, etc...

And you want an FR-S because why?

[21_nola_05]

[QUOTE=AsianStyle;1327610]Yes, but best bang for the buck at what?

Best bang for the buck straight line = mustang, camaro, sti, evo, etc...
Best bang for the buck track times = mustang, sti, evo, etc...
Best bang for the buck handling = twins, miata, etc..
Best bang for the buck dd = gti, st, etc...
Best bang for the buck people hauler = van

Need to set up some guidelines of what you are looking for before you can just say bang for the buck. Depending on your priorities the best bang for the buck car can differ drastically.

My priorities went best bang for the buck under $60k:
fun > handling > dd



The evo handles like a dream aswell .

[AsianStyle]

Originally Posted by 21_nola_05

The evo handles like a dream aswell .

Yes, but it handles differently. When I said handling I was thinking of handling in the classic rwd sense. Rotating the rear and the feedback you get from the wheel.

Yes, cars like the evo and gtr can be considered good handling cars, but the feel is completely different.

[Mikem53]

Originally Posted by strat61caster

there was zero question which one I wanted, price wasn't even a consideration, I'd imagine the Camaro would be in the same boat.

If you want power there is no replacement for the displacement available in American muscle.
If you want lightweight handling the FRS and Miata are unmatched today.

The Camaro is the boat!
Seems the OP is determining what he wants based on the cars features and options.. Then the camaro is the one to get.. The purist approach to a sports car is the FRS .. But you have to understand and appreciate less is more to fully enjoy this car...

[Porsche]

Originally Posted by AsianStyle

I find it so odd that these cars are being cross shopped.

I hear you.

But, we did the very same thing. The two principal cars we were deciding between were the BRZ/FR-S or ...

a Boss 302.

The common element is FUN; these two cars simply offer DIFFERENT FLAVORS of FUN!

Which flavor do we want this time around?


YMMV.

[Biscuitpie]

You'd have to buy a 2LT to get the HUD which is definitely not 23k. I used to have a 2SS (I didn't replace it with the FRS, its replacement is coming) and have been around many 5th gens. The V6 is a pig, I'd rather have the V6 Mustang. Besides, you can get a used 2SS for like 25k now.

[Badasi12b]

Originally Posted by Biscuitpie

You'd have to buy a 2LT to get the HUD which is definitely not 23k. I used to have a 2SS (I didn't replace it with the FRS, its replacement is coming) and have been around many 5th gens. The V6 is a pig, I'd rather have the V6 Mustang. Besides, you can get a used 2SS for like 25k now.

Yeah I'm seeing that... It's kind of funny how Chevy isn't really letting that be known. You have to get that one just to get Navi.

[cdemaar]

Originally Posted by Porsche

I hear you.

But, we did the very same thing. The two principal cars we were deciding between were the BRZ/FR-S or ...

a Boss 302.

The common element is FUN; these two cars simply offer DIFFERENT FLAVORS of FUN!

Which flavor do we want this time around?


YMMV.

I see which one you chose!

PS: we got our 2014 FRS' in October too, but I highly recommend getting the 2013s and saving $1000+.

PPS: we are a va dealer and have both in stock currently!

[Dake]

I'll echo the comments that this is an odd cross-shop. These cars may technically be two-door, RWD sport coupes but that's where any comparisons end. It's like comparing boots to sandals; they may both go on your feet but everything else is different.

I've rented Mustangs, Camaros and Challengers and found the Camaro to be the worst drive by far (though the newest ones may be better). But of course it does come down to personal preference.

[FT86Insider]

The '14 Camaro is a pretty good looking car straight out of the package. And for the money, I agree with ichitaka05!

Originally Posted by ichitaka05

Just tell em up front with due date.

If you cannot get me 2014 model by "due date" then, I'll use my money on buying 2014 Camaro instead.

If they can't get it by the due date then, just buy Camaro