Innovate (Sprintex) Supercharger Owners Topic

[DarrenDriven]

Originally Posted by DarrenDriven

Saw these two cars at SEMA with Innovate kits on them... anyone here?

Originally Posted by lbroskee

2nd belongs to Beatsonic i think

Originally Posted by normancw

Top is MotoIQ's
http://www.motoiq.com/Projects/Scion/FRS.aspx

Hehe... I could have guessed that... wanted to know if the owners were members on this site.

[lbroskee]

has any1 posted IC numbers yet? i wanna see stage 2 with FULL exhaust (maybe even intake and pulley?)

[1010110]

Originally Posted by ft_sjo

I hope that wasn't the final fitment if the charge cooler element in the plenum? It appears to be mounted backwards!

I'll have to ask. How would I be able to tell if it was backwards? Is this what happened to you? Is it what was causing you to not see any improvement in IATs?

[EAGLE5]

Originally Posted by swift996

Not sure if this has been posted but the Edmunds update on their FRS (featuring the intercooled innovate kit):
http://www.edmunds.com/scion/fr-s/20...arger-kit.html

Edmunds' long term dept has fallen apart. I could write more in a week on the FR-S than than write in a year. I don't know why they've crumbled, but it's sad because they used to be a lot of fun.

[Team STILLEN]

^Did the car in that was Edmunds.com drove have a full exhaust and or was everything else on the engine stock?

[sw20kosh]

Originally Posted by lbroskee

has any1 posted IC numbers yet? i wanna see stage 2 with FULL exhaust (maybe even intake and pulley?)

http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showp...postcount=2085

[lbroskee]

Originally Posted by sw20kosh

http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showp...postcount=2085

awesome, can't wait to see it with a good tune

[whataboutbob]

Originally Posted by DeliciousTuning

I would like to see how a PPE header works on the FRS. I have tuned a couple non-forced induction setups with the PPE's and they have really helped the top end power.

Took a look at the PPE setup today. Header and overpipe come as a set with thermal coating at a really good price. Thinking this may be a good option, but I'm wondering if it would be worth it to pay for upgraded materials instead of the mild steel stuff.

[ft_sjo]

Originally Posted by 1010110

I'll have to ask. How would I be able to tell if it was backwards? Is this what happened to you? Is it what was causing you to not see any improvement in IATs?

The 'I' marked on the charge cooler element is supposed to face the front of the manifold according to the Sprintex instructions. No, I don't believe mine is fitted backwards. Other cars show similar charge cooling performance to mine. Less than ideal, but better than nothing (which I think is their view on this!). I still have more testing to do.

[Ethan]

Originally Posted by whataboutbob

Took a look at the PPE setup today. Header and overpipe come as a set with thermal coating at a really good price. Thinking this may be a good option, but I'm wondering if it would be worth it to pay for upgraded materials instead of the mild steel stuff.

I don't know about upgraded materials, but I completely agree that is a good price. The HKS header is twice as much with no overpipe. I notice that the PPE is a 4 to1 configuration, while some others like HKS and Nameless are going with 4 to 2 to 1. Apparently, 4 to 1 is better for top end power while 4 to 2 to 1 is better for low end. Does anyone know if this generalization holds true with our SC?

[Subzero]

Quick question---any luck with heat shielding on the bottom of the Sprintex manifold? Other aluminum manifold subies like it.

[Lawnik]

^This, I would be interested in as well.

Another thing I thought of when inspecting the manifold was a composite spacer to limit the heat transfer from the block. Although I don't think there is room under the stock hood, it could have been designed into the manifold.

So anyone willing to machine a composite spacer set and cut a hole in the hood?

[calispec]

Heat travels through aluminum at a crazy speed. And the worst kind of heat transfer is conduction. The manifold is bolted, with a large amount of surface area, directly to the heads. I don't care how much of a heat shield or blanket you use. It isn't going to help. Phenolic spacers might be a better option but without an intercooler you are still generating high temperatures from just compressing the air. The intercooler even looks like it might cool that cast insert which might even help cool the manifold. Long story short. Get the intercooler and make some good phenolic spacers. The charger already gives a "love bite" to the hood so I am not sure there is even room for a spacer.

[EAGLE5]

With a 75mm pulley, how much clearance is there to the hood? A 70mm pulley will cut that by 2.5mm. Not a lot. How about the mythical 69mm pulley?