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Old 09-03-2013, 04:36 PM   #57
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Please sir, refer to it as the american dream.




And please don't tell me you support the fast food workers striking for $15/hr. I agree minimum wage is not a living wage. When you figure minimum wage 40 hours a week after taxes and expenses related to working (transportation etc) a person basically does better collecting disability. Regardless only one thing will happen if they have their way and hit "15".

The hordes of liberal arts degree holders pouring coffee will now be flipping burgers.

Which means, maybe they can get my fucking snack wrap at mcdonalds right more than half the time. I mean shit, the only variation is which bottle of sauce to grab and they cant even do that right on a regular basis.
The American Dream is going up through the social classes within a lifetime.

You won't get that by "starting people" (wether a highschool kid pursuing his dream of a buying his first car or an unfortunate man without a college degree) with a minimum wage of the 70s.

$15/hr is merely an adjusted minimum wage that SHOULD be in place today. It isn't thanks to the broken government dynamics and corruption of the 70s, 80s and early 2000s. Reaganomics made sure that scalable minimum wage didn't continue, because of course that would demand more responsibility (aka expense, smaller profit margins) from major corporations.

The point of raising minimum wage to what it should be (if it had scaled accordingly) is to raise the bar for everyone, not just the bottom line of workers. Will this happen overnight? of course not, and it's going to be hard, specially considering the ridiculous amount of bickering that is going to come from the people that own this country (corporations).

Higher minimum wage is a good thing, support it.
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Old 09-03-2013, 04:42 PM   #58
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If I lived in Europe I seriously doubt Ide own this car. You all have like 23923923949 different types off hot hatchbacks all looking better than the GTI and ST here which is all that we have offered. No I don't know the prices but Europe has so much selection of cars than us Americans do.
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Old 09-04-2013, 04:41 PM   #59
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That is true, but they are allmost all more expensive then the GT86
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Old 09-04-2013, 04:51 PM   #60
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at least people in europe dont care if you ride 2 strokes in the street D:
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Old 09-05-2013, 01:38 AM   #61
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I only paid $7000 for my FR-S and with some work, it will run me about $12000. Only if you don't mind riding in rebuilts. Its not for everyone.

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Old 09-05-2013, 02:26 AM   #62
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$40k for a GT86?! eff that
I paid just under $40k AUS for my GTS86
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Old 09-05-2013, 01:49 PM   #63
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135,421 $ in Singapore

http://jalopnik.com/the-ten-most-exp...car-1256855393
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Old 09-05-2013, 05:05 PM   #64
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and the stupid european is complaining about the price.
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Old 09-05-2013, 05:23 PM   #65
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% shureEfferalgan;1186140]100% sure? Just checked the Toyota Belgium website - it's not mentioned in the interior features. Is that dealer installed equipment? Where is the sensor located? Can you post pictures pls?! Sorry for the offtopic but I want the auto-whipers badly!!
I'm 90 % shure that the car i drove had automatic wipers (currently i'm still waiting for mine to arrive),
But I also can't find it on the Toyota website, strange
The sensor was installed next to the sensor for the automatic lights ( on the windshield behind the rearview mirror)
I'll check this tomorrow at my work there are a few guys who are Lucky enough to have there car already.[/QUOTE]

OK. Then no hope for me There is simply no auto-whipers. And the headlights sensor in not behind the mirror, its on the passenger side of the dashboard just before the windshield...
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Old 09-05-2013, 05:37 PM   #66
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Sorry man.

You don't need'em anyway
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Don't forget about the prices people in the Middle East pay for their cars.

For the 13 BRZ, they range from $31,853.25 to
$34,303.50
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Old 09-05-2013, 06:48 PM   #68
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Don't forget about the prices people in the Middle East pay for their cars.

For the 13 BRZ, they range from $31,853.25 to
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Easily offset by the cheap gas prices. Gas is so cheap here that its a non factor when choosing a car
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Old 09-05-2013, 07:31 PM   #69
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I only paid $7000 for my FR-S and with some work, it will run me about $12000. Only if you don't mind riding in rebuilts. Its not for everyone.

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Easily offset by the cheap gas prices. Gas is so cheap here that its a non factor when choosing a car
Totally forgot about gas over there. Last time I was there it was cheap, I believe under a dollar a gallon.
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