Best handling car? - Page 8 - Toyota GR86, 86, FR-S and Subaru BRZ Forum & Owners Community

nix · 08-26-2013, 11:47 PM

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Originally Posted by SmsAlSuwaidi

I daily a 458 italia, it's nothing but a joy. The car acts like a normal car, comfy and is easy to get in and out of.

Regarding luggage ? Yeah you can't fit huge bags in it but can make trips and drives with some if you want to.
I carry food, and shit load of random things around in it and never worry.
Here's an example of the front compartment and I was cleaning the fabric as some sticky sugar syrup spilled from dessert

Once we jammed 4x helmets and backpacks in that 458 space! Plenty to get you to the track / super market / club!

fatoni · 08-27-2013, 12:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Suberman

Fit the same power to both and the Cayman outdrives a 911, any 911. No Miata built could keep up.

Lotus is a special case as they are tiny and inaccessible to the aged among us...

I can still get out of a Cayman, just. The BRZ is even more accessible despite its snake gonads C of G.

im a huge miata fan but i understand they are pretty heavily handcuffed from the factory. however, saying no built miata can keep up is ridiculous.

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Originally Posted by Jaylyons1

MSRP is $99,950 so they still meet the mark. They can easily be purchased new for under $90k though.

my bad then. i usually dont go by msrps so i didnt even check. in my neck of the woods, you arent going to find one in the five figure range.

rice_classic · 08-27-2013, 01:39 AM

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Originally Posted by CSG Mike

You haven't REALLY driven the S2k until you can throttle steer the car. A Miata is simply a "WOT around every corner" car. Easy when you don't have much hp. Replicate that with the FR-S, or S2k; it can be do ne.

Now, when are you flying me out there for this challenge?

Muaddib · 08-27-2013, 01:52 AM

Lotus elise.

Be-Are-Zee · 08-27-2013, 01:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Muaddib

Lotus elise.

I would go exige from lotus

CSG Mike · 08-27-2013, 02:18 AM

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Originally Posted by rice_classic

Now, when are you flying me out there for this challenge?

When you donate a s2k to us

SmsAlSuwaidi · 08-27-2013, 06:33 AM

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Originally Posted by nix

Once we jammed 4x helmets and backpacks in that 458 space! Plenty to get you to the track / super market / club!

i miss that car

Jaylyons1 · 08-27-2013, 04:44 PM

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Originally Posted by fatoni

my bad then. i usually dont go by msrps so i didnt even check. in my neck of the woods, you arent going to find one in the five figure range.

Ahh, cali... yea...

There is one out here for $88k. Not that I went looking or anything, lol. East coast is a great place to get new cars for cheap, but the west coast seems to be a great place to get rare cars, even if some are a bit pricey.

(fr-s) · 09-06-2013, 02:45 AM

Ariel Atom.

Suberman · 09-06-2013, 10:21 AM

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Originally Posted by fatoni

im a huge miata fan but i understand they are pretty heavily handcuffed from the factory. however, saying no built miata can keep up is ridiculous.

my bad then. i usually dont go by msrps so i didnt even check. in my neck of the woods, you arent going to find one in the five figure range.

Apples to apples. You modify the Miata (which is not building one, btw, only car manufacturers build cars with their brand name on them) then you modify the Cayman in the same way. Cayman beats Miata every time, no matter what you do.

The Cayman can easily be modified to outperform the 911. Several people have just swapped in a 911 engine and la voila.

I'm pretty sure a factory Cayman is a better handling car than any Lotus currently built

WolfpackS2k · 09-06-2013, 11:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Suberman

Apples to apples. You modify the Miata (which is not building one, btw, only car manufacturers build cars with their brand name on them) then you modify the Cayman in the same way. Cayman beats Miata every time, no matter what you do.

The Cayman can easily be modified to outperform the 911. Several people have just swapped in a 911 engine and la voila.

I'm pretty sure a factory Cayman is a better handling car than any Lotus currently built

I love the Cayman, but every comparison test that I've seen between the Cayman S and Evora has the Evora winning praise for superior handling. That's not to confuse it with being a faster car (it's not) however the auto scribes seem to prefer the Evora's handling.

Sport-Tech · 09-06-2013, 11:48 AM

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Originally Posted by WolfpackS2k

I love the Cayman, but every comparison test that I've seen between the Cayman S and Evora has the Evora winning praise for superior handling. That's not to confuse it with being a faster car (it's not) however the auto scribes seem to prefer the Evora's handling.

Too bad the Evora looks so awful. Of course those headlights on the Cayman aren't winning any beauty contests either.... Now the Cayman with the 911 lights would be sick.

utekineir · 09-06-2013, 12:27 PM

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Originally Posted by CSG Mike

Guess what they all have in common?

Drivers with flat brimmed hats, monster drinks and a macklemore tshirt?

solidONE · 09-06-2013, 12:50 PM

You know, I've always considered 95"-96" wheelbase and 59"-60" track width the magical numbers for handling performance, the "golden ratio" for balance in a RWD car. Some of my favorite cars had similar numbers (ex. FD RX-7, and 911) It seems the Cayman has also went with these numbers. But, in more recent times auto engineers seem to be going with longer wheelbase in the performance cars. It seem that they have been favoring stability at the cost of loosing some nimbleness. (101" on our 86's and the Evora)

While based on hard numbers the miata might lose to a lot of these much more expensive cars, but the "feel" of how this little bar-of-soap with wheels is unmatched by any car I've driven. So direct and so nimble it's as if the car was steered by thought.

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solidONE Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2012 Drives: FR-S Whiteout Location: California Posts: 2,863 Thanks: 1,808 Thanked 791 Times in 611 Posts Mentioned: 42 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	You know, I've always considered 95"-96" wheelbase and 59"-60" track width the magical numbers for handling performance, the "golden ratio" for balance in a RWD car. Some of my favorite cars had similar numbers (ex. FD RX-7, and 911) It seems the Cayman has also went with these numbers. But, in more recent times auto engineers seem to be going with longer wheelbase in the performance cars. It seem that they have been favoring stability at the cost of loosing some nimbleness. (101" on our 86's and the Evora) While based on hard numbers the miata might lose to a lot of these much more expensive cars, but the "feel" of how this little bar-of-soap with wheels is unmatched by any car I've driven. So direct and so nimble it's as if the car was steered by thought.

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