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Old 08-19-2013, 09:15 AM   #239
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haha I used to work at nissan and some customers key lost syncronism with the car and he couldn't start it all weekend even tough the car had nothing wrong, just the key!!!
Nissans are notorious for this 4 of 5 friends with altimas have had this issue, but none of the bmw/MINI ive came across have had the issue.
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Old 08-19-2013, 09:19 AM   #240
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I wish I had NOT gotten the Sport-Tech / Limited trim. All the things I really wanted were already available in the base trim, but I upsold myself at the last minute. Could have saved almost $4000 in trim/taxes/fees and got a set of CE28s instead. =(
Oh, did you psych yourself out? Why did you decide to go with it at the last minute? I knew going in I was on for a limited/sport-tech.
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Old 08-19-2013, 10:27 AM   #241
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Oh, did you psych yourself out? Why did you decide to go with it at the last minute? I knew going in I was on for a limited/sport-tech.
It's been a while now, so not all I say here may actually be accurate.

At the time I put in the order for the BRZ, I had only wanted the base model.
I didn't want the keyless entry, I didn't want the auto HVAC, I didn't even really want the spoiler (although now that I have it, I like it a lot )

I did want the fog lights, not because I would use them, but I like the look more than without.

I also don't really remember why, but for some reason, I wasn't sure if heated seats and mirrors were available on the base BRZ, and since I intended to use the car year round, heated mirrors were a 'must'.

Anyhow, I figured that for the extra money, I was still getting a lot more parts than I could purchase on my own (new spoiler with paint, and fog lights with trim and wiring would alone cost over $2,000 in parts and labour).

In retrospect, I did psych myself out.... oh well.... if only I could delete the auto HVAC easily....
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Old 08-19-2013, 10:33 AM   #242
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I learned my lesson on the value of a dollar when I was a kid. My mother used to check pricing on the grocery receipt after she got home and found errors. Got her money back. She grew up during the 1930s (1929 Wall Street Crash) and fifty cents meant a lot more then, let alone $35 dollars. Many people buy cars too frequently and over a forty year period it could mean another $100,000 in one's pocket by saving just a relatively small amount per month. Good luck. Never, Never, tell a car salesperson how much money you can spend per month, not that you did, but that is how the dealer sells that "extra 10%".

Thats a cool story!

Same can be said about a cup of joe, eating out, watching movies, having an iphone, having a cable bill, etc

I won't go into my financial situation and how I did the deal, nor will I tell anyone how to spend their money.

No two people share the same financial situation.

I went in knowing I wanted a limited at a price I WAS *COMFORTABLE* AT and i walked out with it with no regrets.
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Old 08-19-2013, 10:47 AM   #243
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It's been a while now, so not all I say here may actually be accurate.

At the time I put in the order for the BRZ, I had only wanted the base model.
I didn't want the keyless entry, I didn't want the auto HVAC, I didn't even really want the spoiler (although now that I have it, I like it a lot )

I did want the fog lights, not because I would use them, but I like the look more than without.

I also don't really remember why, but for some reason, I wasn't sure if heated seats and mirrors were available on the base BRZ, and since I intended to use the car year round, heated mirrors were a 'must'.

Anyhow, I figured that for the extra money, I was still getting a lot more parts than I could purchase on my own (new spoiler with paint, and fog lights with trim and wiring would alone cost over $2,000 in parts and labour).

In retrospect, I did psych myself out.... oh well.... if only I could delete the auto HVAC easily....
Ah, so a bit of a case of wanting something in between the trim levels and now feeling like the extra money wasn't necessarily worth it. I understand that problem since when I was looking at other cars (the Focus ST in paticular) only offered HID on the top model with so many extras that I just didn't care for. Brought my desired price from $25k to past $30k.
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Old 08-19-2013, 12:21 PM   #244
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It is interesting to hear all of these differing opinions. I got it because now the BRZ feels like a luxery car after owning two WRXs for the last 10 years.
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Old 08-19-2013, 12:49 PM   #245
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Limited 100%

The interior is 1000x nicer then the premium.
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I think all of this could be solved if Subaru would allow you to pick and choose the options.
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Old 08-19-2013, 02:23 PM   #247
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That's good. Just so others realize that a little extra that is financed (on credit) is a real cost nevertheless.
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Thats a cool story!

Same can be said about a cup of joe, eating out, watching movies, having an iphone, having a cable bill, etc

I won't go into my financial situation and how I did the deal, nor will I tell anyone how to spend their money.

No two people share the same financial situation.

I went in knowing I wanted a limited at a price I WAS *COMFORTABLE* AT and i walked out with it with no regrets.
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Old 08-19-2013, 03:48 PM   #248
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Wow, this really has turned into a BRZ Limited hate thread. Listen, it all comes down to what you're using the car for. If its a track car, buy the FRS and save as much money as possible. If you're daily driving the car and spend a decent amount of time driving, buy the Limited no questions asked.

The premium just felt cheaper to me when I checked it out. The nicer seats and lighting and push button start are features I appreciate daily. Even the Limited was lacking in a fee areas so I have made improvements on the interior and I'm still making improvements. Just because its a 30k car doesn't mean it needs to look like one.

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Old 08-19-2013, 04:57 PM   #249
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It seems like this has turned into a "Limited" hate thread. I am buying a BRZ in Limited Trim because that is how I want my car. To me as a consumer these modern conviences are well worth the relative small amount of cash. I have said this before and I'll say it again the engineers did a great job of providing numerous options to consumers for purchasing this platform. This allows a lot of different buyers to get into this car. For some this is a dream car, for some it is cute, the examples are endless. For me it gets good MPG, looks good, has a great history "Intial D fan", and beats the hell out of many of the other choices I had for a DD.

Please stop the hating and allow others to enjoy their cars...

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I think we are dealing with a lot of people that are probably regretting getting the Premium and now feel like they have to justify it.

There was no way I was not going to get the Limited for $1200 more. If people are maxing their money out as it is to get a Premium they should probably not be preaching to others about how to spend their money.

You are buying a relatively impractical $25K+ 2 door RWD sports car. If your goal is to save money and be practical you should be looking at used Corollas and used Civics.....
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This thread has run its course. I believe the OP should have enough personal opinions to make some sort of a decision..
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That's good. Just so others realize that a little extra that is financed (on credit) is a real cost nevertheless.
So for me, the cost of the Limited model was roughly $1200 more than the Premium (none of the dealers near me sold base model Premium models in the two colors I wanted without add-ons like spoilers, homelink, rear bumper applique, wheel locks, etc).

$1200 financed over 60 months at 1.9% financing is roughly $21 or so a month or about $60 in interest assuming I carried the loan for 60 months (I plan on paying mine off in 24 months).

And the true cost would also come into play at resale, because the Limited model with the same miles and wear and tear will be worth more at resale and may also sell faster. In other words if a Limited fetched $800 more than a Premium when I sell my car in 5 years, I really just paid $400 more to drive it over 5 years plus interest.
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For me it was just simply a matter of making sure I got cloth seats. Not getting the Limited just happened to be a $1200 windfall savings for me. (plus the MSRP discount on the vehicle)

Either way, a car is a depreciating asset and its value will invariably be much much less in just one year let alone five years.
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So for me, the cost of the Limited model was roughly $1200 more than the Premium (none of the dealers near me sold base model Premium models in the two colors I wanted without add-ons like spoilers, homelink, rear bumper applique, wheel locks, etc).

$1200 financed over 60 months at 1.9% financing is roughly $21 or so a month or about $60 in interest assuming I carried the loan for 60 months (I plan on paying mine off in 24 months).

And the true cost would also come into play at resale, because the Limited model with the same miles and wear and tear will be worth more at resale and may also sell faster. In other words if a Limited fetched $800 more than a Premium when I sell my car in 5 years, I really just paid $400 more to drive it over 5 years plus interest.
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