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Old 08-08-2013, 05:07 AM   #43
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Saw the same thing when the Mustang Boss 302 came out,... the same thing on their forum with guys selling their cars after the newness and hype wore off , some of us impulse buy, plain and simple. I have way to much money now invested over purchase price in my 86 compared to my Boss LS so I'm stuck with it hell or high water and I'm transforming it into the Lotus Exige I could never fit in ( 6'5''),.. but have lusted over for years.
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Old 08-08-2013, 05:31 AM   #44
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lol, al jap cars are called rice rockets. so what gives. so everyone needs to sell their civics, and supras?

i need to sell my j-tin? please advise...
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Odd that "retard" gets deleted but "jap" gets a pass. One carries far more offensive (and racist) baggage than the other. Guess which one? My bet is that the ones who tremble and yell "racist" over the word "retard" don't know the answer.
He also said "al" in place of "all." Pretty sure he was just being lazy, and shortening "Japanese" to "jap." It's not racist until you make it so. I say US all the time instead of "United States". Anyway... cars...
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I'm transforming it into the Lotus Exige I could never fit in ( 6'5''),.. but have lusted over for years.
Sector111 carbon fiber roof. Problem solved. At 6'2" I had no trouble driving an S 240.

EDIT: An S 240 with the factory roof. Didn't even need the Sector111 roof.
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Old 08-08-2013, 05:34 AM   #46
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because racecar. Ive considering selling mine at times. Impulse buy. its a fun car, but the market hype damages this car. too many options it gives a headache. and then its sad that you are proud you added that exhaust, and then you see 20 diff threads that have added 20k or more in mods. and then you feel like, dam, why continue writing in my build thread, since nobody will post in it.

Not bashing those great builds, but some people feel discouraged, that for them to have better car, you need to put a lot of money.

Case in point, HP. every HP needed becomes expensive. 5000 for a supercharger? 10,000 for trd brakes? its better to go buy a old car, and buy cheap stuff over ebay and achieve greater hp.

at the end, its whatever...
No different then young girls seeing modeling mags and feeling need to puke cuse they feel they're too fat? But ya ... I do get what you're saying anything can become a money pit lol.
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He also said "al" in place of "all." Pretty sure he was just being lazy, and shortening "Japanese" to "jap." It's not racist until you make it so. I say US all the time instead of "United States". Anyway... cars...
I prefer to call my Japanese friends "nips". Just as short for the lazy.
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I have about 1,200 in mods already 800 was already on the car when I bought it since I wanted it that way. I plane on spending 3k more without the TRD exhaust 3.5 k with it. I haven't decided on the exhaust and 2k will be the wheels. I want the black sti rims with red writing on it. I also will be doing all this in like a 5 year span since I never plan to sell.
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You see owners from ever auto maker selling their cars for different reasons nothing uncommon about this.
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You see owners from ever auto maker selling their cars for different reasons nothing uncommon about this.
Agreed. There are currently 1,365 people that have voted that they do have a chirping sound in their cars, and there are just a handful of cars for sale in the classifieds section right now. And about 1/5th of the cars for sale aren't even 86's.
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Going sideways is expensive.

Did i mention i have yet to track or auto x and i've gone through two sets of tires and on my third? 23,000mi only!

I have friends with cars running 400HP having more tread life then me.


This car lifestyle is very expensive, most cannot afford it and will mostly hold it off intill they are middle aged and the kids are out of the house. Thats why majority of classic/performance car owners are around 40-60.
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This car lifestyle is very expensive, most cannot afford it and will mostly hold it off intill they are middle aged and the kids are out of the house. Thats why majority of classic/performance car owners are around 40-60.
This is true. People always seem to forget the value of a kid on the black market. I don't have a kid, but I bet if I did I could trade it for two full sets of NT01's easily.
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Honestly the finances are probably the big one though...plenty of threads here with people posting nearly and double-digit interest or having change of life (i.e. children, different type of job) circumstances.

Alternatives...some people just can't be happy with a car for long periods of time...think of how many Vs.threads have people coming from cars they haven't even owned the industry 18 months (turnover). There could be people with early cars (not the first 86 but soon after) who have almost had their cars 18 months now and will be looking for their next ride. There were plenty of people who worked at dealerships for other makes that bought the cars for comparison (industry brag rights, blah blah) and now want to unload.
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For the same reason that cars are generally getting more insulated, bigger, heavier, and more powerful. Basically all the things the FR-S is NOT, but what most people actually want.

I have a feeling a lot of people read the glowing enthusiast/magazine reviews and went out and bought one, without really understanding what makes this car special. This car was never going to appeal to the masses.

No insulation? Unfiltered feedback from the car? Driving feel? A tiny NA engine you have to rev to 7000 rpm just to make just 200 hp? Bare-bones interior?

Let's face it, most people will just associate that with "cheap and gutless". What this car excels at is providing the best, most direct driving experience you can have for the price. And most people don't want that, whether they realize it yet or not.

Car manufacturers like BMW, Lotus, Honda, etc. have realized that for years now. And that's why their cars are heading the direction they are.
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For the same reason that cars are generally getting more insulated, bigger, heavier, and more powerful. Basically all the things the FR-S is NOT, but what most people actually want.

I have a feeling a lot of people read the glowing enthusiast/magazine reviews and went out and bought one, without really understanding what makes this car special. This car was never going to appeal to the masses.

No insulation? Unfiltered feedback from the car? Driving feel? A tiny NA engine you have to rev to 7000 rpm just to make just 200 hp? Bare-bones interior?

Let's face it, most people will just associate that with "cheap and gutless". What this car excels at is providing the best, most direct driving experience you can have for the price. And most people don't want that, whether they realize it yet or not.

Car manufacturers like BMW, Lotus, Honda, etc. have realized that for years now. And that's why their cars are heading the direction they are.
I think you hit it on the head. I think people thought, "oh $25k isn't too much money" and that they could handle driving a sports car as their daily without thinking about how hard the suspension really is or how tight space the backseat really is.

I think this is the perfect car for someone like me. I've finished all my graduate school work at the age of 29 (no debt, whoot!), I've got a stable job with a solid income for at least 5 years (fellowship), girlfriend and I don't want kids for several years, and we live in a city where driving is unnecessary (subway is our main means of transit). BRZ for me (us?) made sense since I don't ever drive people anywhere and I had enough money saved up to put down a $18k down payment and got 1.5% financing on the balance of the car.
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