Direct Injector Leaking - Page 21 - Toyota GR86, 86, FR-S and Subaru BRZ Forum & Owners Community

Tirewarmer · 06-25-2013, 04:19 PM

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Originally Posted by topazsparrow

Ah, that's enlightening. Didn't mean to rustle anyone's jimmies. I just interpreted the situation wrong.

No problem at all. I figured that you didn't see all of the details.

cf6mech · 07-06-2013, 06:43 AM

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Originally Posted by ft_sjo

I'm not really sure why a VVT related TSB is being posted in a fuel injector thread.

EXACTLY MY THOUGHT ! WTF ?

regal · 07-06-2013, 10:22 AM

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Originally Posted by cf6mech

EXACTLY MY THOUGHT ! WTF ?

Maybe the cams have a bit to do with detonation? Remember the South Aftrical TSB was issued 4 months ago, so obviously Toyota has no corporate universal agreement to the problem. Subaru may have found the cause with the cam sensor shim, unfortunately it isn't a realistic procedure for most Subaru dealers to perform and obviously Scion isn't signing up for it.

Lonewolf · 07-06-2013, 01:15 PM

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Originally Posted by regal

Maybe the cams have a bit to do with detonation? Remember the South Aftrical TSB was issued 4 months ago, so obviously Toyota has no corporate universal agreement to the problem. Subaru may have found the cause with the cam sensor shim, unfortunately it isn't a realistic procedure for most Subaru dealers to perform and obviously Scion isn't signing up for it.

I really wish that we weren't so in the dark with everything, and it is kind of disconcerting to see two manufacturers presumably do different things to try and combat the same issue...

I just want to buy my FRS, but I won't as long as these unresolved engine issues remain (seals, injectors, oil leak, stock tune is still garbage)....

Hanakuso · 07-06-2013, 01:24 PM

I wonder if Subaru South Africa has the TSB

mrk1 · 07-07-2013, 12:10 PM

What do this injectors and seals cost? Obviously I believe Subaru/Toyota should cover the costs but I haven't seen it mentioned.

I'm curious what will happen to guys who have through out the warranty with FI

regal · 07-07-2013, 01:04 PM

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Originally Posted by mrk1

What do this injectors and seals cost? Obviously I believe Subaru/Toyota should cover the costs but I haven't seen it mentioned.

I'm curious what will happen to guys who have through out the warranty with FI

Its been posted that the seals and gaskets required to be replaced when pulling the injectors are completely out of stock nation-wide and back ordered for months.

mrk1 · 07-07-2013, 01:06 PM

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Originally Posted by regal

Its been posted that the seals and gaskets required to be replaced when pulling the injectors are completely out of stock nation-wide and back ordered for months.

Yes I read that, I'm more curious as to the price of the parts.

bestwheelbase · 07-07-2013, 03:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Lonewolf

I really wish that we weren't so in the dark with everything, and it is kind of disconcerting to see two manufacturers presumably do different things to try and combat the same issue...

I just want to buy my FRS, but I won't as long as these unresolved engine issues remain (seals, injectors, oil leak, stock tune is still garbage)....

You're not the only one. Early adopters expect this sort of thing, but there's an even larger number of consumers who watch what happens during the first or second model year and base purchasing decisions off those experiences. It will be interesting to see how widespread this becomes.

yuicebox · 07-07-2013, 06:48 PM

I don't currently have this problem. I'm at ~1400 miles and still on factory oil.

Once I change my oil should I drive the living hell out of this thing to make sure any problems arise during the warranty period? Definitely worried about this one.

We as owners really need to stick together here and do whatever it takes to get Toyota/Subaru to acknowledge and rectify this problem.

bestwheelbase · 07-08-2013, 12:28 AM

If you're concerned these issues will impact other owners, you need to file a complaint at the link below and make sure that they are all filed under the same category. It is these complaints that lead to recalls.

https://www-odi.nhtsa.dot.gov/ivoq/

Carwhisperer · 07-18-2013, 05:23 PM

Car just threw P0351 - Ignition Coil "A" Primary Control Circuit/Open. The same CEL I got a couple of months ago right before I started getting firecrackers. Awesome.

whitefrs · 07-18-2013, 05:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Carwhisperer

Car just threw P0351 - Ignition Coil "A" Primary Control Circuit/Open. The same CEL I got a couple of months ago right before I started getting firecrackers. Awesome.

Wow bud

Lemon car?

Carwhisperer · 07-18-2013, 05:51 PM

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Originally Posted by whitefrs

Wow bud

Lemon car?

Going that route now.

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