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View Poll Results: Credit for steelies on track models so you can buy your own lightweight wheels?
Hell yes! 30 33.71%
Depends on how much they credit me for the steelies vs. alloys 34 38.20%
Nah, I don't care 25 28.09%
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Old 02-24-2010, 12:01 AM   #29
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Ya, who would cater to .5% of the buyers... Supplying "stripped down" as an option? Well, BMW would for one.



Seriously, are you going to compare BMW to Toyota.

First off, show me where you can order this car from BMW. This car is a COMPLETLEY different type of automobile, this is a dedicated factory race preped shell. This is NOT A FACTORY OPTION. If it is, i would really like to see where to order one.

This is not the same as having a mass produced car with an options list that ignores economies of scale to cater to a small crowd.

ANYWAY, I am not here to argue, all I am saying is I dont think it will happen and in my opinion its kind of ignorant to expect it at all, its an asthetics issue, a cost issue, and its just not going to happen.

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Old 02-24-2010, 01:03 AM   #30
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No I'm not a retard, **** head. Manufacturers (especially Toyota) dont build cars anymore that cater to a specific niche like this. They build cars that EVERYONE WILL BUY (i.e. good looking cars with real world options)

They will not do something as sinical as putting steelies as an option that HARDLY ANYONE WILL BUY.

End of story. Dont get all butt hurt because I come in here and tell it like it is. All I was saying is that its not cost effective nor smart business sense to put ugly ass wheels on a car even as an option, just to cater to .5% of buyers...get it?

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Old 02-24-2010, 02:39 AM   #31
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No offense to Ford, but I care less bout Ford. Anyways, yeah some auto companies go out of their way to support the enthusiasts and racers for sure.
Yeah, not a fan of FORD, myself.

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Seriously, are you going to compare BMW to Toyota.

First off, show me where you can order this car from BMW. This car is a COMPLETLEY different type of automobile, this is a dedicated factory race preped shell. This is NOT A FACTORY OPTION. If it is, i would really like to see where to order one.

This is not the same as having a mass produced car with an options list that ignores economies of scale to cater to a small crowd.

ANYWAY, I am not here to argue, all I am saying is I dont think it will happen and in my opinion its kind of ignorant to expect it at all, its an asthetics issue, a cost issue, and its just not going to happen.
The options list wouldn't ignore economies of scale. It would have all the normal options, plus a couple less popular, but very welcome additions.
Don't call people ignorant, it shows off your ignorance.
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Thanks Lex
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Old 02-24-2010, 06:26 AM   #33
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why will it be bad business sense? It's an OPTION right?
make an FT86RS stripped down, minimal sound proofing, steelies, lightweight where-ever and i'll go for that one
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Old 02-24-2010, 09:43 AM   #34
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it makes sense to offer the option, but i'll probably get the standard alloy wheels until i get a good chance to get a set of these:



i don't think i want to rock steelies while i save up a few grand for wheels... come to think of it, how about they just offer the LM's to begin with and save me the trouble?

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Seriously, are you going to compare BMW to Toyota.
Sure, why not... BMW and Lexus are direct competitors.
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Old 02-24-2010, 02:41 PM   #36
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some dealers over here actually used to throw in aftermarket wheels when u buy the Evo RS as an incentive. Would be cool if it happens to the FT

i'll rock some white TE37s on a white FT
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Old 02-24-2010, 03:36 PM   #37
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holy hell that was funny
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lmao! haha yes it was.

Look, just had an idea and figured it would make sense for a car which a lot of buyers would like to use for drifting, the track, or some other form of racing either legal or illegal.

I'm all for a lightweight no frills option and would hope a set of "disposable" wheels would be included along with some savings. Heck, if a no frills option was $2000-3000 dollars cheaper than the normal model, that's a really nice set of wheels right there.

This car is being promoted already as a serious track car, one to compete with the Z for the hearts of enthusiasts who actually drive their cars the way they're meant to be driven. I don't think Toyota will do this but I figure if we get enough positive responses to threads such as this, Toyota will take notice and seriously consider it. I'm pretty sure they check up on and read forums like this one so why not talk about it?

Take your head out of your ass and go back to finger painting that helmet you're wearing...
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Old 02-25-2010, 12:39 PM   #39
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+1

Last time I checked, almost every car model from almost every manufacturer has steel wheels with some BS flashy looking wheel cover. I don't think its a stretch to see it here either.
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Heck, if a no frills option was $2000-3000 dollars cheaper than the normal model, that's a really nice set of wheels right there.
for GOOD summer tires, on a 17" wheel, i think we can safely say $250/tire, so $1000 right there. i think it kind of depends on each individual's definition of "really nice wheels." those BBS LM's i posted run in the neighborhood of $750/wheel. so we're talking $4000 for wheels and tires. i guess you could get some knockoffs for $250/wheel, but then again, what's the point? they wouldn't be lighter or stronger than the factory alloys.

see why i'll just stick with the factory alloys? there's no way in hell they'll give a $4000 discount.

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I'm pretty sure they check up on and read forums like this one so why not talk about it?
Seeing that this is probably the biggest FT-86 forum anywhere... pretty sure SOMEONE checks up on this site.
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i guess you could get some knockoffs for $250/wheel, but then again, what's the point? they wouldn't be lighter or stronger than the factory alloys.
You can get an RPF1 for around $250 a wheel, they aren't knockoffs and will weigh several pounds less than the OEM wheels.
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