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G_Ride · 06-17-2013, 02:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by qoncept

Ran my second event today. Had some more embarrassing DNFs but finished a little less than a second off the guy they tell me is the best driver in the region in a CS Miata. I definitely want to go with the C71 compound Hankooks next time and they are still screaming for front camber.

One section of the course ended up dropping me under 4k in 2nd gear. I never did try downshifting. Does anyone use first gear? It was a pretty short section and I can't imagine I could have saved any time but I'd like to see when people DO downshift.

Link to more from the event, videos uploading now:
http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showp...7&postcount=10

I'm not sure about the twins, yet, I've tried it in my Impreza wagon. It wasn't worth it. It was better to leave it in 2nd, even with the lower rpms.

qoncept · 06-17-2013, 02:20 AM

I could never get my WRX in 1st gear while it was moving anyway. In the BRZ I can but like I said, I doubt it would be worth it at the speed I shift. There was a guy in Alabama region in an old Integra that was in 1st gear several times per course and he was faster than I'll ever be, though.

G_Ride · 06-17-2013, 02:41 AM

I guess it depends on if the time it takes to get it into 1st and how long you'd actually stay in that gear is worth it or not.

qoncept · 06-17-2013, 02:51 AM

Here's a video, between 12-24 seconds in to the video is what I was thinking about today. I don't thinK I could have stayed in 1st the whole time which really ruled it out.

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hxE5shBBEd4"]Great River Region SCCA Autox - June 16 - Run 6 - YouTube[/ame]

G_Ride · 06-17-2013, 03:18 AM

It was probably better to stay in 2nd.

xwd · 06-17-2013, 04:44 PM

We have had a couple courses here where I have dropped as low as like 3000 RPM in some tight 180 type turns. One of them had a wider spaced slalom afterwards where I likely could have made up some time by putting it in 1st, but I didn't bother at a local event. I know some of the S2000 guys were downshifting back into 1st there and it definitely helped.

This car is much easier to downshift into 1st than the WRX/STi gearboxes.

Also, since this is the CS thread, the July Fastrack has a proposal to move the BRZ/FR-S to ES with the NB Miata.

G_Ride · 06-17-2013, 04:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dwx

We have had a couple courses here where I have dropped as low as like 3000 RPM in some tight 180 type turns. One of them had a wider spaced slalom afterwards where I likely could have made up some time by putting it in 1st, but I didn't bother at a local event. I know some of the S2000 guys were downshifting back into 1st there and it definitely helped.

This car is much easier to downshift into 1st than the WRX/STi gearboxes.

Also, since this is the CS thread, the July Fastrack has a proposal to move the BRZ/FR-S to ES with the NB Miata.

It makes sense that the S2000 guys are downshifting.

That would be interesting if the move to ES is approved. I somewhat don't see that happening, but I could be wrong.

qoncept · 06-21-2013, 04:17 PM

Looks like we'll be moving to ES next year

https://docs.google.com/viewer?url=h...-july-solo.pdf

qoncept · 06-21-2013, 04:17 PM

Looks like we'll be moving to ES next year

https://docs.google.com/viewer?url=h...-july-solo.pdf

xwd · 06-21-2013, 07:53 PM

It is just a proposal and there is a decent amount of opposition to moving them to ES. I don't think we are done with class shuffling just yet.

qoncept · 06-24-2013, 12:27 AM

Honestly I hope not. I think the car is a really good fit in CS.

3rd event in the BRZ today, I think I won CS but there were no times posted anywhere and I'm not really even sure who was in the class. I added a Perrin catback and Whiteline 22mm front sway bar yesterday. Everyone says that's too much bar but I like it a lot.

More here, with videos: http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showp...5&postcount=11

Ryeong86 · 06-24-2013, 02:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by qoncept

Ran my second event today. Had some more embarrassing DNFs but finished a little less than a second off the guy they tell me is the best driver in the region in a CS Miata. I definitely want to go with the C71 compound Hankooks next time and they are still screaming for front camber.

One section of the course ended up dropping me under 4k in 2nd gear. I never did try downshifting. Does anyone use first gear? It was a pretty short section and I can't imagine I could have saved any time but I'd like to see when people DO downshift.

Link to more from the event, videos uploading now:
http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showp...7&postcount=10

I down shift sometimes, it depends on how much power I am losing.

[ame="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tKZzKXCA0AU"]2013 Scion FR-S SCCA SJR SOLO - YouTube[/ame]

qoncept · 06-24-2013, 03:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ryeong86

I down shift sometimes, it depends on how much power I am losing.

I did at yesterday's event:

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qUy3oOz4Is4"]Iowa Region SCCA Autox - June 23 - Run 4 - YouTube[/ame]

Ryeong86 · 06-24-2013, 03:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by qoncept

I did at yesterday's event:

Dude, that event looks like a lot of fun. I wish they used the whole runway over here because it's huge and so many possibilities to create an awesome course.

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06-17-2013, 02:41 AM	#73
G_Ride Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2013 Drives: Some kind of Subaru Location: Campbell, CA Posts: 769 Thanks: 276 Thanked 257 Times in 185 Posts Mentioned: 16 Post(s) Tagged: 2 Thread(s)	I guess it depends on if the time it takes to get it into 1st and how long you'd actually stay in that gear is worth it or not.

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G_Ride Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2013 Drives: Some kind of Subaru Location: Campbell, CA Posts: 769 Thanks: 276 Thanked 257 Times in 185 Posts Mentioned: 16 Post(s) Tagged: 2 Thread(s)	It was probably better to stay in 2nd.

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xwd Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2012 Drives: 2013 DGM Subaru BRZ (Subie #9) Location: ATL, US Posts: 2,667 Thanks: 123 Thanked 861 Times in 552 Posts Mentioned: 32 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	We have had a couple courses here where I have dropped as low as like 3000 RPM in some tight 180 type turns. One of them had a wider spaced slalom afterwards where I likely could have made up some time by putting it in 1st, but I didn't bother at a local event. I know some of the S2000 guys were downshifting back into 1st there and it definitely helped. This car is much easier to downshift into 1st than the WRX/STi gearboxes. Also, since this is the CS thread, the July Fastrack has a proposal to move the BRZ/FR-S to ES with the NB Miata.

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