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AceHeader-MT · 11-30-2015, 10:25 PM

Hi Everyone,

We're looking for some feedback on what Ace Header owners are looking for in terms of sound from their exhaust systems.

The Type A and Type B Ace headers- paired with different frontpipes, midpipes and mufflers- all have different resonance and frequencies.

Most know we are working on a CSG designed "Laguna Spec" low db muffler (http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=95331), but some are looking for a mean growl from their tuned 86's.

This thread is a great place for most systems (http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=6064) and while combing through it, we noticed the sound variance in what people like is huge.

We've been playing in the shop with mufflers and have found ways to get certain frequencies and resonance with different configurations. The main goal is still to limit power loss and save weight, but if we can easily make a muffler that sounds great to you guys, we're happy to try.

If you have any sound clips already and want to post here we'd love to know what you're running. Just mention which

Header (Type A or Type B 350/250/150)
Frontpipe
Midpipe
Muffler

We really appreciate your thoughts and opinions. And thanks to everyone who's supported us so far, we hope you're enjoying these cars as much as we are.

Happy Driving,
Team Ace

CSG with Type A 350. Stock RS1.0 exhaust
[ame="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8e31Ketqj38"]CSG Ace 4-2-1 FRS/BRZ header Laguna Seca fly-by Sound Clip at 86CUP - YouTube[/ame]

Alex Jackson with Type A 350, nameless stock fit front pipe with hfc and helmholtz resonator, T1R single exit titanium and Jackson Racing Supercharger
[ame="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_AZ8vq0QYHU"]JRSC, E85, and ACE header results from HG with delicious tuning - YouTube[/ame]

Kotu with Type B 250, Invidia catless resonated front pipe and Invidia Q300
[ame="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UDGKnqQ9wew"]Ace header on Brz accel and flyby - YouTube[/ame]
[ame="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XBw0uV67MU0"]Ace header on BRZ with q300 - YouTube[/ame]
[ame="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KBC4psHI_rs"]Ace header Brz - YouTube[/ame]

Jason C with Type B 250, Motiv 2.5 Catted FP and Dezod Catback
[ame="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qwy4Ddk9Z_8"]ACE 4-2-1 - YouTube[/ame]

Kevin S with Type A 350, Ace FP and ???
[ame="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GpyVx4Wu9L0"]BW13CW 10152015 - YouTube[/ame]

NotSoJDM with Type B 350, Stock FP/MP and Borla Factory Muffler with Edelbrock Eforce Supercharger
Reviews: http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=96022 , http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=96255
[ame="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GL9ObGLXtOE"]Dragon Run 2 Oct 2015 - YouTube[/ame]
[ame="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lfvidoUx940"]Dragon Run 3 Oct 2015 - YouTube[/ame]

For any questions or order information contact:
Mike or David at CSG
http://counterspacegarage.com/
Ace Header
http://aceheader.com/

For tuning related questions contact:
William or Zach at Delicious Tuning
http://www.delicioustuning.com/
Mike or David at CSG
http://counterspacegarage.com/

Also a good thread for OFT users here:
http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=97795

CSG Mike · 11-30-2015, 11:05 PM

I love this post.

I'd like to note that the Laguna Seca fly-by clip is with a stock RS1.0 exhaust, which is quite a bit louder than a "normal" oem exhaust, but IMO it sounds awesome.

AceHeader-MT · 11-30-2015, 11:27 PM

updated. Lets keep 'em coming

Trust86 · 11-30-2015, 11:36 PM

I WILL have the 350 when tax return comes... yet so far away

Will the Type A 350's still be produced by then?

CSG Mike · 11-30-2015, 11:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Trust86

I WILL have the 350 when tax return comes... yet so far away

Will the Type A 350's still be produced by then?

If there are any left... it's first come first serve. The Type B 350 will be the alternative

JimmyMac · 12-01-2015, 12:54 AM

Thanks for the videos. Although I did get caught up binging on drunk girl compilations from one of the video links.....

projectXTR · 12-01-2015, 05:48 PM

Oh my word, the first clip with the RS1.0 exhaust is magnificent !

CounterSpace Garage · 12-01-2015, 08:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AceHeader-MT

updated. Lets keep 'em coming

Kevin has a cutout in the OEM exhaust piping so it's basically a muffler delete without the muffler being actually deleted.

evil_1998 · 12-10-2015, 07:31 AM

ACE Type B 250 Header + Factory front-pipe + Invidia Q300 Cat-back cold start up

[ame="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xw29_8EvtCg"]ACE Type B 250 Header + Factory front-pipe + Invidia Q300 Cat-back cold start & revs - YouTube[/ame]

Doozer · 01-13-2016, 09:26 PM

Phoenix and HSR's Okayama run.
Type B 150
Driver: Massaya Kato
[ame="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RaRbjEikVe0"]2015 12 08 HSR&PHOENIX'sPOWER86 - YouTube[/ame]

PA-86 · 01-14-2016, 02:52 PM

Ordered my ACE Type B 250 this past Nov. When I receive it I'll post a video with my current setup, Nameless axle back 5" muffler version + OFT tune.

MisterSheep · 01-14-2016, 02:53 PM

subbed

sw20kosh · 01-14-2016, 08:54 PM

ACE Type A 350 + ACE FP + Magnaflow in midpipe + Greddy SP Elite

Initially had everything except the Magnaflow and SP Elite. The stock muffler rasp/rattle/vibrated so much it was awful. Then I had a 4x9x17 magnaflow welded into the midpipe. This cut down the exterior volume slightly, introduced a lil bit of cabin noise but did NOTHING to get rid of the vibration/resonance in the tin can stock muffler. The SP Elite took care of that.

JDM4E · 10-16-2016, 10:25 AM

UP this thread.
Especially looking for ACE 250 + catted and resonated midpipes + Q300 or other silent catback.

11-30-2015, 10:25 PM	#1
AceHeader-MT Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2013 Drives: 2012 FR-S Location: Taiwan Taichung Posts: 225 Thanks: 359 Thanked 695 Times in 159 Posts Mentioned: 19 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Best BRZ FR-S GT86 Ace Header exhaust (sound) Hi Everyone, We're looking for some feedback on what Ace Header owners are looking for in terms of sound from their exhaust systems. The Type A and Type B Ace headers- paired with different frontpipes, midpipes and mufflers- all have different resonance and frequencies. Most know we are working on a CSG designed "Laguna Spec" low db muffler (http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=95331), but some are looking for a mean growl from their tuned 86's. This thread is a great place for most systems (http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=6064) and while combing through it, we noticed the sound variance in what people like is huge. We've been playing in the shop with mufflers and have found ways to get certain frequencies and resonance with different configurations. The main goal is still to limit power loss and save weight, but if we can easily make a muffler that sounds great to you guys, we're happy to try. If you have any sound clips already and want to post here we'd love to know what you're running. Just mention which Header (Type A or Type B 350/250/150) Frontpipe Midpipe Muffler We really appreciate your thoughts and opinions. And thanks to everyone who's supported us so far, we hope you're enjoying these cars as much as we are. Happy Driving, Team Ace CSG with Type A 350. Stock RS1.0 exhaust [ame="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8e31Ketqj38"]CSG Ace 4-2-1 FRS/BRZ header Laguna Seca fly-by Sound Clip at 86CUP - YouTube[/ame] Alex Jackson with Type A 350, nameless stock fit front pipe with hfc and helmholtz resonator, T1R single exit titanium and Jackson Racing Supercharger [ame="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_AZ8vq0QYHU"]JRSC, E85, and ACE header results from HG with delicious tuning - YouTube[/ame] Kotu with Type B 250, Invidia catless resonated front pipe and Invidia Q300 [ame="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UDGKnqQ9wew"]Ace header on Brz accel and flyby - YouTube[/ame] [ame="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XBw0uV67MU0"]Ace header on BRZ with q300 - YouTube[/ame] [ame="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KBC4psHI_rs"]Ace header Brz - YouTube[/ame] Jason C with Type B 250, Motiv 2.5 Catted FP and Dezod Catback [ame="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qwy4Ddk9Z_8"]ACE 4-2-1 - YouTube[/ame] Kevin S with Type A 350, Ace FP and ??? [ame="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GpyVx4Wu9L0"]BW13CW 10152015 - YouTube[/ame] NotSoJDM with Type B 350, Stock FP/MP and Borla Factory Muffler with Edelbrock Eforce Supercharger Reviews: http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=96022 , http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=96255 [ame="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GL9ObGLXtOE"]Dragon Run 2 Oct 2015 - YouTube[/ame] [ame="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lfvidoUx940"]Dragon Run 3 Oct 2015 - YouTube[/ame] For any questions or order information contact: Mike or David at CSG http://counterspacegarage.com/ Ace Header http://aceheader.com/ For tuning related questions contact: William or Zach at Delicious Tuning http://www.delicioustuning.com/ Mike or David at CSG http://counterspacegarage.com/ Also a good thread for OFT users here: http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=97795 Last edited by AceHeader-MT; 11-30-2015 at 11:26 PM.

12-10-2015, 07:31 AM	#9
evil_1998 Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2012 Drives: GT86 Location: Australia Posts: 110 Thanks: 31 Thanked 56 Times in 36 Posts Mentioned: 2 Post(s) Tagged: 1 Thread(s)	ACE Type B 250 Header + Factory front-pipe + Invidia Q300 Cat-back cold start up [ame="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xw29_8EvtCg"]ACE Type B 250 Header + Factory front-pipe + Invidia Q300 Cat-back cold start & revs - YouTube[/ame] __________________ *PROJECTGT86***

01-13-2016, 09:26 PM	#10
Doozer Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2014 Drives: gt86...among others Location: edis rehto eht Posts: 110 Thanks: 61 Thanked 176 Times in 55 Posts Mentioned: 3 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Phoenix and HSR's Okayama run. Type B 150 Driver: Massaya Kato [ame="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RaRbjEikVe0"]2015 12 08 HSR&PHOENIX'sPOWER86 - YouTube[/ame] __________________ racing gods live deep in corners

01-14-2016, 08:54 PM	#13
sw20kosh Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2012 Drives: 2013 Black FR-S Location: SF Posts: 3,030 Thanks: 881 Thanked 2,014 Times in 990 Posts Mentioned: 153 Post(s) Tagged: 1 Thread(s)	ACE Type A 350 + ACE FP + Magnaflow in midpipe + Greddy SP Elite Initially had everything except the Magnaflow and SP Elite. The stock muffler rasp/rattle/vibrated so much it was awful. Then I had a 4x9x17 magnaflow welded into the midpipe. This cut down the exterior volume slightly, introduced a lil bit of cabin noise but did NOTHING to get rid of the vibration/resonance in the tin can stock muffler. The SP Elite took care of that. __________________ 86DRIVE Challenge

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