Track Car Suggestions - Toyota GR86, 86, FR-S and Subaru BRZ Forum & Owners Community

PPX · 02-04-2015, 04:22 AM

Choice between GT4 or C7Z with Z07? Same price, different philosophies, ultimately same purpose. And adding Shelby Gt350R to the mix. Feel free to suggest others within 6 figure, only deal breaker is no manual. Depreciation will be weighed.

ZDan · 02-04-2015, 04:41 AM

Miata

TylerLieberman · 02-04-2015, 06:58 AM

Of course. Before opening the thread, I knew somebody was going to say Miata.

No thanks..

GT4 without a doubt for me. Z07 and C7Z are cool and all but the GT4 just seems like such a fun car to push. Like an FRS but 10x better in every single way.

reni · 02-04-2015, 08:02 AM

How about starting off with karts and eventually move up to some sort of single-seater car? If it's for a dedicated track car, I don't see the point of buying a road car, and I don't see the point of buying a car faster than you can handle. It's like that episode of top gear where the stig driving a Cayman laps much faster than Hammond in a twin turbo v12 Huayra.

pushrod · 02-04-2015, 08:33 AM

Caterham

f0rge · 02-04-2015, 08:45 AM

Alfa 4C

Takumi788 · 02-04-2015, 08:45 AM

With that kind of money why dont you get a BAC mono? Ariel Atom?

Out of your choices I think the GT4 would be superior.

Dave-ROR · 02-04-2015, 10:01 AM

What's your experience level and how much money can you write off?

BRZZZZZZZZZZ · 02-04-2015, 10:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pushrod

Caterham

This

Gunman · 02-04-2015, 12:59 PM

Riley Trackday Car.
http://www.rileytech.com/pdf/trackdaycar.pdf

rice_classic · 02-04-2015, 01:08 PM

All depends on which one you feel most comfortable with crumpled up and on fire.

Pat · 02-04-2015, 02:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rice_classic

All depends on which one you feel most comfortable with crumpled up and on fire.

This. Buy a used race car commensurate with your skill level. Ensure it is thoroughly vetted by someone specializing in that platform.
No point in buying a street car if you'll only use it on the track.

strat61caster · 02-04-2015, 02:18 PM

The big thing is that I'm slowly realizing that the number of vehicles sold as street cars that can actually be driven at 100% for more than one or two laps at a track are few and far between, the number shrinks when you start adding simple things like better brakes and tires and you really beat the hell out of it, which what's the point of going to the track if you don't beat the hell out of it? Like @rice_classic says, whichever you feel comfortable balling up.

I assume the purpose is less a dedicated track car and more of a trackable weekend car that you can still drive to work Monday. If that's the case I would skip new cars altogether (as the warranty is likely moot), find something a couple years old for < half your budget with a strong aftermarket that has already solved problems that appear when driving hard. Z06, Cayman's and Boxsters, maybe Boss 302 (I honestly can't tell based on OP if you want or don't want a Manual?).

As I'm realizing how expensive it is to get a Toyobaru truly reliable on track (which may be impossible given the number of spun rod bearings) I'm seriously considering buying a Miata to track, specifically spec miata so I can get some wheel to wheel racing action in before I'm old and gray. It seems to be one of the few street vehicles that can be beaten mercilessly for hours of track time with no breaks. Karting may be cheaper on the budget but less accessible to friends & family than going to trackdays and offering rides or even drives.

PPX · 02-04-2015, 05:27 PM

I understand there are really no stock street cars that are 100% suitable for pure track duty. So I should state it will be street driven and manual is a must, otherwise BAC Mono like others suggested.

02-04-2015, 04:22 AM	#1
PPX Member Join Date: Nov 2013 Drives: BRZ Location: Canada Posts: 55 Thanks: 0 Thanked 6 Times in 6 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Track Car Suggestions Choice between GT4 or C7Z with Z07? Same price, different philosophies, ultimately same purpose. And adding Shelby Gt350R to the mix. Feel free to suggest others within 6 figure, only deal breaker is no manual. Depreciation will be weighed.

02-04-2015, 06:58 AM	#3
TylerLieberman Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2011 Drives: '24 GR86 Location: Arizona Posts: 3,686 Thanks: 658 Thanked 3,363 Times in 1,584 Posts Mentioned: 16 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Of course. Before opening the thread, I knew somebody was going to say Miata. No thanks.. GT4 without a doubt for me. Z07 and C7Z are cool and all but the GT4 just seems like such a fun car to push. Like an FRS but 10x better in every single way. __________________ Old 2013 FRS Build Thread (SOLD) Hakone 86 GR Build Thread (SOLD)

02-04-2015, 10:01 AM	#8
Dave-ROR Site Moderator Join Date: Dec 2010 Drives: Stuff Location: Florida Posts: 10,317 Thanks: 955 Thanked 5,965 Times in 2,689 Posts Mentioned: 262 Post(s) Tagged: 8 Thread(s)	What's your experience level and how much money can you write off? __________________ -Dave Track cars: 2013 Scion FRS, 1998 Acura Integra Type-R, 1993 Honda Civic Hatchback DD: 2005 Acura TSX Tow: 2022 F-450 Toys: 2001 Chevrolet Corvette Z06, 1993 Toyota MR2 Turbo, 1994 Toyota MR2 Turbo, 1991 Mitsubishi Galant VR-4 Parts: 2015 Subaru BRZ Limited, 2005 Acura TSX Projects: 2013 Subaru BRZ Limited track car build FS: 2004 GMC Sierra 2500 LT CCSB 8.1/Allison with 99k miles

02-04-2015, 01:08 PM	#11
rice_classic Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2012 Drives: Nevermorange FRS Location: Seattle, WA Posts: 4,173 Thanks: 757 Thanked 4,208 Times in 1,808 Posts Mentioned: 78 Post(s) Tagged: 1 Thread(s)	All depends on which one you feel most comfortable with crumpled up and on fire. __________________ SCCA T4 - FRS

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reni Nobody beats the B[I\|R]Z Join Date: Apr 2012 Drives: shopping cart i stole from walmart Location: somewhere Posts: 939 Thanks: 262 Thanked 1,145 Times in 456 Posts Mentioned: 7 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	How about starting off with karts and eventually move up to some sort of single-seater car? If it's for a dedicated track car, I don't see the point of buying a road car, and I don't see the point of buying a car faster than you can handle. It's like that episode of top gear where the stig driving a Cayman laps much faster than Hammond in a twin turbo v12 Huayra.

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strat61caster - Join Date: Nov 2012 Drives: '13 FRS - STX Location: SF Bay Area Posts: 10,383 Thanks: 13,790 Thanked 9,502 Times in 5,013 Posts Mentioned: 94 Post(s) Tagged: 3 Thread(s)	The big thing is that I'm slowly realizing that the number of vehicles sold as street cars that can actually be driven at 100% for more than one or two laps at a track are few and far between, the number shrinks when you start adding simple things like better brakes and tires and you really beat the hell out of it, which what's the point of going to the track if you don't beat the hell out of it? Like @rice_classic says, whichever you feel comfortable balling up. I assume the purpose is less a dedicated track car and more of a trackable weekend car that you can still drive to work Monday. If that's the case I would skip new cars altogether (as the warranty is likely moot), find something a couple years old for < half your budget with a strong aftermarket that has already solved problems that appear when driving hard. Z06, Cayman's and Boxsters, maybe Boss 302 (I honestly can't tell based on OP if you want or don't want a Manual?). As I'm realizing how expensive it is to get a Toyobaru truly reliable on track (which may be impossible given the number of spun rod bearings) I'm seriously considering buying a Miata to track, specifically spec miata so I can get some wheel to wheel racing action in before I'm old and gray. It seems to be one of the few street vehicles that can be beaten mercilessly for hours of track time with no breaks. Karting may be cheaper on the budget but less accessible to friends & family than going to trackdays and offering rides or even drives.

02-04-2015, 05:27 PM	#14
PPX Member Join Date: Nov 2013 Drives: BRZ Location: Canada Posts: 55 Thanks: 0 Thanked 6 Times in 6 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	I understand there are really no stock street cars that are 100% suitable for pure track duty. So I should state it will be street driven and manual is a must, otherwise BAC Mono like others suggested.

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