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Jonesy86 · 01-24-2015, 06:16 AM

Gas fumes are great and all, but not in the cabin of the car.
I'm guessing I have two options:
1. Find someone to cut/weld.
2. Buy a new header.

If you have experience welding, advice? (not welding it myself)
Or what header? I've heard the tomei does well with my innovate and perrin set up.

Thanks in advance!

Yamaha_R6 · 01-24-2015, 02:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jonesy86

Gas fumes are great and all, but not in the cabin of the car.
I'm guessing I have two options:
1. Find someone to cut/weld.
2. Buy a new header.

If you have experience welding, advice? (not welding it myself)
Or what header? I've heard the tomei does well with my innovate and perrin set up.

Thanks in advance!

I'm selling a JDL EL header if you're interested.

stockysnail · 01-24-2015, 05:02 PM

I have the JDL UEL with my Innovate and I like it.

Akari · 01-24-2015, 05:24 PM

OEM header or what brand?

Ultramaroon · 01-24-2015, 06:23 PM

Where's it cracked?

edit: Pics or gtfo.

Jonesy86 · 01-24-2015, 11:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Akari

OEM header or what brand?

Xs power el.

bcj · 01-25-2015, 12:49 AM

What happened?
Manufacturing, or sleeping policeman?
Lacking vital information. 4/10.

Ultramaroon · 01-25-2015, 01:23 AM

Ok, Jonesy, I'll step in. Poorly manufactured. Jig was off making the weldment so, as mounted, the part highlighted in red hangs lower than it should. The flexible coupling bellows is stretched in an S-shape and subsequently cracked. This is an example picture with a similar header.

We looked at it together and I initially suggested we cut out the cracked coupling and replace it with another. I would tack it in with the header mounted in place so it would conform to the rest of the shitty weldment without residual stress.

I have an adequate TIG setup but am not the best welder in the world. I would get a nice bead but would also end up with a huge heat affected zone because I'm too slow. I don't use enough current because I'm always afraid of burning through the pipe.

If I get it tacked, would anyone else volunteer to run a bead around it off of the car?

Any input is welcome. Hare-brained scheme? Trying to save a few bucks. It's Jonesy's car so I didn't want to speak too much in his place.

Ultramaroon · 01-25-2015, 05:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Yamaha_R6

I'm selling a JDL EL header if you're interested.

what carbs do you have on your 260? Is it the original engine?

Yamaha_R6 · 01-25-2015, 07:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ultramaroon

what carbs do you have on your 260? Is it the original engine?

I have the L26, however the carbs are early 240 style. Someone is planting seeds in my head about swapping in a VQ later on

Touge_ninja · 01-25-2015, 07:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Yamaha_R6

I have the L26, however the carbs are early 240 style. "Someone" is planting seeds in my head about swapping in a VQ later on

Bro RB26

just cause you got smacked that one night

jkjk

Yamaha_R6 · 01-25-2015, 07:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Touge_ninja

Bro RB26

just cause you got smacked that one night

jkjk

Rolling start next time!

By the way Jonesy, here are some pics of the header in case you're interested.

Touge_ninja · 01-25-2015, 07:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Yamaha_R6

Rolling start next time!

By the way Jonesy, here are some pics of the header in case you're interested.

Real men race from a dig

JKJK

Ultramaroon · 01-26-2015, 02:57 PM

Bump for feedback. Anyone care to recommend a good welder who can do stainless?

Jonesy, I hear that JDL is a respected unit. Lots of people running it.

01-24-2015, 06:16 AM	#1
Jonesy86 Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2014 Drives: innovate sc frs Location: Portland Posts: 566 Thanks: 177 Thanked 315 Times in 181 Posts Mentioned: 82 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	cracked header Gas fumes are great and all, but not in the cabin of the car. I'm guessing I have two options: 1. Find someone to cut/weld. 2. Buy a new header. If you have experience welding, advice? (not welding it myself) Or what header? I've heard the tomei does well with my innovate and perrin set up. Thanks in advance!

01-24-2015, 06:23 PM	#5
Ultramaroon not playing cards Join Date: Sep 2014 Drives: a 13 e8h frs Location: vantucky, wa Posts: 32,395 Thanks: 53,053 Thanked 37,228 Times in 19,308 Posts Mentioned: 1117 Post(s) Tagged: 9 Thread(s)	Where's it cracked? edit: Pics or gtfo. __________________ service manuals Last edited by Ultramaroon; 01-24-2015 at 07:05 PM.

01-25-2015, 01:23 AM	#8
Ultramaroon not playing cards Join Date: Sep 2014 Drives: a 13 e8h frs Location: vantucky, wa Posts: 32,395 Thanks: 53,053 Thanked 37,228 Times in 19,308 Posts Mentioned: 1117 Post(s) Tagged: 9 Thread(s)	Ok, Jonesy, I'll step in. Poorly manufactured. Jig was off making the weldment so, as mounted, the part highlighted in red hangs lower than it should. The flexible coupling bellows is stretched in an S-shape and subsequently cracked. This is an example picture with a similar header. We looked at it together and I initially suggested we cut out the cracked coupling and replace it with another. I would tack it in with the header mounted in place so it would conform to the rest of the shitty weldment without residual stress. I have an adequate TIG setup but am not the best welder in the world. I would get a nice bead but would also end up with a huge heat affected zone because I'm too slow. I don't use enough current because I'm always afraid of burning through the pipe. If I get it tacked, would anyone else volunteer to run a bead around it off of the car? Any input is welcome. Hare-brained scheme? Trying to save a few bucks. It's Jonesy's car so I didn't want to speak too much in his place. __________________ service manuals Last edited by Ultramaroon; 01-25-2015 at 01:34 AM.

01-26-2015, 02:57 PM	#14
Ultramaroon not playing cards Join Date: Sep 2014 Drives: a 13 e8h frs Location: vantucky, wa Posts: 32,395 Thanks: 53,053 Thanked 37,228 Times in 19,308 Posts Mentioned: 1117 Post(s) Tagged: 9 Thread(s)	Bump for feedback. Anyone care to recommend a good welder who can do stainless? Jonesy, I hear that JDL is a respected unit. Lots of people running it. __________________ service manuals

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