FR-S and Genesis - Toyota GR86, 86, FR-S and Subaru BRZ Forum & Owners Community

DMDominator · 08-10-2014, 03:25 PM

When I was going for a new car last August I had narrowed it down to two. FR-S and Genesis. I went with the FR-S and didn't think twice about the Genesis... until about three months ago when I did.

I already knew what the FR-S is good at and where it lacks. It's a lot of fun and quite a head turner. It's also quite deceptive looking to your average Joe/Jane. People would always say "It must be really fast!" and I would just laugh it off and tell them that it was quick at best.

Now, to make one thing clear so this doesn't become a hate thread, I still have my FR-S and will not be selling it.

With that said, I bought a Genesis 3.8 Track last week. Why? I wanted what I didn't buy a year ago. I can't say that I'm 100% satisfied with the Genesis but it's a faster, smoother ride. The clutch is decent but the gear box is a bit clunky. The traction control is not as good as the FR-S but when you shut it off you are far less likely to lose control than when you turn it off in the FR-S. I'm still getting used to the lower redline but it'll be ok. Interior is no contest and goes to the Genesis. Exterior win obviously goes to the FR-S but the Genesis does look more "adult" than the youth appeal of the FR-S. Handling goes to the FR-S but the Genesis is no slouch.

They really are in completely different categories even though they always get lumped together. I know most people realistically can't have both in their driveway, but if you are able to then go for it.

Chen · 08-10-2014, 03:33 PM

I recently test drove one. It happened to be the turbo automatic version. Imo it wasn't what I was expecting power wise. Could be because it was an auto. But when ever I tried to build boost it would shift even in manual mode. In a straight line it was quick. Still felt like a tank. As for interior I wish some of the things came standard for the frs. I told myself I wouldn't miss the moon roof. ( I'm in orrgon, it rains like 10 months of the year) and here I find myself wanting a moon roof. If I were to get another car. I would personally get an s2k.

N1rve · 08-10-2014, 03:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Chen

I recently test drove one. It happened to be the turbo automatic version. Imo it wasn't what I was expecting power wise. Could be because it was an auto. But when ever I tried to build boost it would shift even in manual mode. In a straight line it was quick. Still felt like a tank. As for interior I wish some of the things came standard for the frs. I told myself I wouldn't miss the moon roof. ( I'm in orrgon, it rains like 10 months of the year) and here I find myself wanting a moon roof. If I were to get another car. I would personally get an s2k.

I test drove the manual 2.0 T, it was quite weak. I test drove the 3.8 Automatic and it was full of power, however it doesn't slip on making aggressive turns like you do in the FRS. That's what I liked about the FRS, the easy oversteer.

Xti · 08-10-2014, 03:37 PM

Genesis and FR-S are too different in characteristic. But if you are a driver type of person, you wouldn't appreciate Genesis that much.

If you are looking for RWD sport car, convertible, and power together. Why not a used Lexus SC ? that thing is V8 powered, and all the luxurious you need.

I totally agree with Chen, a more driver car would be the S2K. S2K is the best of both worlds (Miata + FRS) together

Chen · 08-10-2014, 03:40 PM

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Originally Posted by N1rve

I test drove the manual 2.0 T, it was quite weak. I test drove the 3.8 Automatic and it was full of power, however it doesn't slip on making aggressive turns like you do in the FRS. That's what I liked about the FRS, the easy oversteer.

I was actually looking at people who went FI on a 3.8 geneis. Put close to 420whp isn't to shabby. That would be something I would consider.

Edit- bigger rear sways should fix that oversteer issue the Genesis doesn't have.

driftguy · 08-10-2014, 04:21 PM

There is a section for "VS" threads. This belongs there.

BRZtoni · 08-10-2014, 04:31 PM

i work for hyundai..

that being said, i LOVE my BRZ..

the genesis coupes is considered a grand touring vehicle, very heavy and not nimble.
best bang for your buck though..

Teseo · 08-10-2014, 04:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Chen

I recently test drove one. It happened to be the turbo automatic version. Imo it wasn't what I was expecting power wise. Could be because it was an auto. But when ever I tried to build boost it would shift even in manual mode. In a straight line it was quick. Still felt like a tank. As for interior I wish some of the things came standard for the frs. I told myself I wouldn't miss the moon roof. ( I'm in orrgon, it rains like 10 months of the year) and here I find myself wanting a moon roof. If I were to get another car. I would personally get an s2k.

You live in rainy state, and want a convertible?

chas3wba0 · 08-10-2014, 05:02 PM

It's nice that you get to have both. I also test drove the Gen coupes and only went with the BRZ for the price and fun factor. I'll agree that the 2.0T is a joke, but the 3.8 was a much more impressive beast. Nonetheless, it was just too big and heavy for me. I wanted my first manual car to be lightweight and nimble.

Lonewolf · 08-10-2014, 05:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DMDominator

When I was going for a new car last August I had narrowed it down to two. FR-S and Genesis. I went with the FR-S and didn't think twice about the Genesis... until about three months ago when I did.

I already knew what the FR-S is good at and where it lacks. It's a lot of fun and quite a head turner. It's also quite deceptive looking to your average Joe/Jane. People would always say "It must be really fast!" and I would just laugh it off and tell them that it was quick at best.

Now, to make one thing clear so this doesn't become a hate thread, I still have my FR-S and will not be selling it.

With that said, I bought a Genesis 3.8 Track last week. Why? I wanted what I didn't buy a year ago. I can't say that I'm 100% satisfied with the Genesis but it's a faster, smoother ride. The clutch is decent but the gear box is a bit clunky. The traction control is not as good as the FR-S but when you shut it off you are far less likely to lose control than when you turn it off in the FR-S. I'm still getting used to the lower redline but it'll be ok. Interior is no contest and goes to the Genesis. Exterior win obviously goes to the FR-S but the Genesis does look more "adult" than the youth appeal of the FR-S. Handling goes to the FR-S but the Genesis is no slouch.

They really are in completely different categories even though they always get lumped together. I know most people realistically can't have both in their driveway, but if you are able to then go for it.

We already have a thread for this....what is with all these pointless posts in general lately?

Chen · 08-10-2014, 05:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Teseo

You live in rainy state, and want a convertible?

Yup. No reason. Just want one.

Havsie · 08-10-2014, 08:21 PM

The Genesis isn't a very good value. You can get a Mustang or a Camaro with a V8 for the same price as the 3.8. If you're going to be driving a larger car, you might as well get something that has 400+ horsepower.

funwheeldrive · 08-10-2014, 08:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Havsie

The Genesis isn't a very good value. You can get a Mustang or a Camaro with a V8 for the same price as the 3.8. If you're going to be driving a larger car, you might as well get something that has 400+ horsepower.

That's what I was going to say. Prices for the 2014 mustang gt are dropping fast. For the same price you get a faster car that is easier to modify, has better build quality, better resale value, and is better looking(imo).

HyperTech · 08-10-2014, 09:26 PM

genesis is a nice car, i really liked it. but doesnt handle like the frs. because of the weight and the weight distribution.

its really not a bad car, its up to the taste of each person. it took me 3 years to decide witch car i really wanted, i have looked the genesis, mustang and the frs.

i went with the frs, just because i really really like how it handle in the corner.

08-10-2014, 03:25 PM	#1
DMDominator Member Join Date: Sep 2013 Drives: Genesis 3.8 Track, Firestorm FR-S Location: Wisconsin Posts: 84 Thanks: 112 Thanked 25 Times in 15 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	FR-S and Genesis When I was going for a new car last August I had narrowed it down to two. FR-S and Genesis. I went with the FR-S and didn't think twice about the Genesis... until about three months ago when I did. I already knew what the FR-S is good at and where it lacks. It's a lot of fun and quite a head turner. It's also quite deceptive looking to your average Joe/Jane. People would always say "It must be really fast!" and I would just laugh it off and tell them that it was quick at best. Now, to make one thing clear so this doesn't become a hate thread, I still have my FR-S and will not be selling it. With that said, I bought a Genesis 3.8 Track last week. Why? I wanted what I didn't buy a year ago. I can't say that I'm 100% satisfied with the Genesis but it's a faster, smoother ride. The clutch is decent but the gear box is a bit clunky. The traction control is not as good as the FR-S but when you shut it off you are far less likely to lose control than when you turn it off in the FR-S. I'm still getting used to the lower redline but it'll be ok. Interior is no contest and goes to the Genesis. Exterior win obviously goes to the FR-S but the Genesis does look more "adult" than the youth appeal of the FR-S. Handling goes to the FR-S but the Genesis is no slouch. They really are in completely different categories even though they always get lumped together. I know most people realistically can't have both in their driveway, but if you are able to then go for it.

08-10-2014, 04:31 PM	#7
BRZtoni Turbo E85 Join Date: Sep 2013 Drives: 13 wrb brz Location: torrance, ca Posts: 1,093 Thanks: 172 Thanked 555 Times in 349 Posts Mentioned: 32 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	i work for hyundai.. that being said, i LOVE my BRZ.. the genesis coupes is considered a grand touring vehicle, very heavy and not nimble. best bang for your buck though.. __________________ Flex Fuel Turbo BRZ

08-10-2014, 05:02 PM	#9
chas3wba0 Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2013 Drives: Yes Location: Bay Area, CA Posts: 1,053 Thanks: 1,630 Thanked 813 Times in 407 Posts Mentioned: 5 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	It's nice that you get to have both. I also test drove the Gen coupes and only went with the BRZ for the price and fun factor. I'll agree that the 2.0T is a joke, but the 3.8 was a much more impressive beast. Nonetheless, it was just too big and heavy for me. I wanted my first manual car to be lightweight and nimble. __________________ "If thy pleaſure be in Underſteere, thou art Weird." - Distraxi

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08-10-2014, 03:33 PM	#2
Chen Regional Moderator Join Date: Aug 2012 Drives: 00-AP1 20-A90 06-Z33 07-FA5 93-NA1 Location: Portland, OR Posts: 4,633 Thanks: 85 Thanked 1,278 Times in 856 Posts Mentioned: 309 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	I recently test drove one. It happened to be the turbo automatic version. Imo it wasn't what I was expecting power wise. Could be because it was an auto. But when ever I tried to build boost it would shift even in manual mode. In a straight line it was quick. Still felt like a tank. As for interior I wish some of the things came standard for the frs. I told myself I wouldn't miss the moon roof. ( I'm in orrgon, it rains like 10 months of the year) and here I find myself wanting a moon roof. If I were to get another car. I would personally get an s2k.

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Xti Member Join Date: May 2014 Drives: Fast, Cool, New Location: United States Posts: 64 Thanks: 10 Thanked 16 Times in 12 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Genesis and FR-S are too different in characteristic. But if you are a driver type of person, you wouldn't appreciate Genesis that much. If you are looking for RWD sport car, convertible, and power together. Why not a used Lexus SC ? that thing is V8 powered, and all the luxurious you need. I totally agree with Chen, a more driver car would be the S2K. S2K is the best of both worlds (Miata + FRS) together

08-10-2014, 04:21 PM	#6
driftguy Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Drives: In between cars... 2018 Ninja 1000 Location: San Antonio Posts: 109 Thanks: 148 Thanked 231 Times in 59 Posts Mentioned: 1 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	There is a section for "VS" threads. This belongs there.

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Havsie Member Join Date: Mar 2013 Drives: 13 FR-S Whiteout 6MT Location: NJ Posts: 96 Thanks: 1 Thanked 88 Times in 30 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	The Genesis isn't a very good value. You can get a Mustang or a Camaro with a V8 for the same price as the 3.8. If you're going to be driving a larger car, you might as well get something that has 400+ horsepower.

08-10-2014, 09:26 PM	#14
HyperTech Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2011 Drives: Mazda3 2013 / Scion FR-S 2015 Location: Montreal, Canada Posts: 201 Thanks: 104 Thanked 48 Times in 31 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	genesis is a nice car, i really liked it. but doesnt handle like the frs. because of the weight and the weight distribution. its really not a bad car, its up to the taste of each person. it took me 3 years to decide witch car i really wanted, i have looked the genesis, mustang and the frs. i went with the frs, just because i really really like how it handle in the corner.

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