Forbes Magazine: BRZ = future collectible car

[BRZ_Lawyer]

Business/Econ publisher named the subaru brz one of ten future collectible cars on the market... i guess investors are even digging the BRZ

link - http://www.forbes.com/pictures/ehmk4...13-subaru-brz/

[Ganthrithor]

By the time any of these cars is old enough to be considered a classic, non-autonomous vehicles will probably have been banned from public roads and most people who care about cars will be dead.

Also, I doubt any of the cars on this list will be the next GTO... they're all mass-produced cars that don't differ significantly from their contemporaries and have no racing pedigree. The BRZ may hold its value better than most things on that list, but I wouldn't call it collectible. Also, current GTI's becoming collectible? Hahahahahahahaha...

[thill]

I highly doubt it.. There will simply be too many of them on the road, and too many of them modified bad enough to attract the rice kiddies..

I think these cars will continue to depreciate at a pretty quick rate used. Probably more like a used Miata than a used Supra...

[uEih]

It would possibly be one if they discontinued production of at least the brz but other than that I don't really see it being one.

[CatDaddysBBQ]

If the cheap RWD market dries up again like it did for a while prior to the twins coming out, they could hold a bit of value compared to the usual depreciation... But collector car? No way.

I always find that cars have a "terminal value" - the dollar amount that it just sits at after it "fully" depreciates. I think the twins will have a reasonably high terminal value compared to other 25k cars, but to be a collector car, it implies that you would MAKE money on it. I doubt that will happen. BUT, in 12 years, you still may have to pay 13k for a clean one, which would be great for the seller at that point but nowhere near collector status.

[funwheeldrive]

Originally Posted by CatDaddysBBQ

If the cheap RWD market dries up again like it did for a while prior to the twins coming out, they could hold a bit of value compared to the usual depreciation... But collector car? No way.

I always find that cars have a "terminal value" - the dollar amount that it just sits at after it "fully" depreciates. I think the twins will have a reasonably high terminal value compared to other 25k cars, but to be a collector car, it implies that you would MAKE money on it. I doubt that will happen. BUT, in 12 years, you still may have to pay 13k for a clean one, which would be great for the seller at that point but nowhere near collector status.

I don't think the definition of a collector's car is being able to profit from it. You can't really sell a FD RX7 for more than its MSRP, but I would still consider it a modern collector's car.

I think the BRZ and certain models of the FRS will be very desirable 20-30 years from now. Cars are having more and more technology packed in to them (backup cameras, self parking, hybrid systems, digital gauges, etc). The twins are relatively basic when it comes to technology, and I think that along with its relatively low weight, steering feel, and emphasis on handling will really attract automotive enthusiasts in the future. I can only imagine how hard it will be to find a stock 2013 BRZ in the year 2045.

[tahdizzle]

I agree with the twins potentially becoming an collectors car. It depends on what kind of following it develops and where it goes.

Robins are collector cars. AE86s are collector cars, Supras are collector cars, Z cars are collector cars.

Being mass produced does not mean they cannot be collector cars.

[BRZ_Lawyer]

Originally Posted by CatDaddysBBQ

If the cheap RWD market dries up again like it did for a while prior to the twins coming out, they could hold a bit of value compared to the usual depreciation... But collector car? No way.

I always find that cars have a "terminal value" - the dollar amount that it just sits at after it "fully" depreciates. I think the twins will have a reasonably high terminal value compared to other 25k cars, but to be a collector car, it implies that you would MAKE money on it. I doubt that will happen. BUT, in 12 years, you still may have to pay 13k for a clean one, which would be great for the seller at that point but nowhere near collector status.

Thanks for teaching me about terminal value.... No wonder the 2001 mr2 never goes down in price

[BRZ_Lawyer]

Originally Posted by uEih

It would possibly be one if they discontinued production of at least the brz but other than that I don't really see it being one.

I was hoping for discontinue in 2015

[AVodka14]

The BRZ has a better chance than the FRS. I had a dream last night I totaled my FRS and bought a SWP BRZ. I was so happy!

If it weren't for the discounts I get through Toyota. The BRZ limited would have been my choice hands down.

[funwheeldrive]

Originally Posted by AVodka14

The BRZ has a better chance than the FRS. I had a dream last night I totaled my FRS and bought a SWP BRZ. I was so happy!

If it weren't for the discounts I get through Toyota. The BRZ limited would have been my choice hands down.

I think a manual Monogram will be worth more than a Limited BRZ since the majority of Monograms are said to be automatic.

[Ubersuber]

So, this car is not as collectible as, say, an MGB or TR6 (GT6 to be a coupe)?

It is an extremely good looking car and drives exceptionally well. It should be pretty much bulletproof forever, rebuilding the engine and transmission will not be necessary for a long time and even then will be relatively easy and cheap to do.

I think these cars will be built for a long time and enjoyed as very old classic cars, particularly as more mainstream cars become less and less interesting to drive.

[Fastbrew]

The value will be in stock, unmodified ones. Try finding one of those.

[PollosHermanos]

I think that if the lightweight RWD market heats up it will drive up desire for these cars because they will be seen as the car that restarted that market. That alone would be a reason for someone who was really into car history to go out and pay for a clean one.