Will OEM camber bolt install affect alignment - Toyota GR86, 86, FR-S and Subaru BRZ Forum & Owners Community

B-R-Z · 05-23-2014, 12:28 PM

Can I install these without affecting my alignment?

I installed Eibach Pro-Kit sorings recently and had my car aligned. I was wondering if I can put these bolts in to get more negative camber without messing up the toe. I'm thinking no, but thought I'd ask since I don't know if toe would be affected by this.

I know, I know, I should have put these in before my alignment.

jprice130 · 05-23-2014, 01:07 PM

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Originally Posted by B-R-Z

Can I install these without affecting my alignment?

I installed Eibach Pro-Kit sorings recently and had my car aligned. I was wondering if I can put these bolts in to get more negative camber without messing up the toe. I'm thinking no, but thought I'd ask since I don't know if toe would be affected by this.

I know, I know, I should have put these in before my alignment.

Installing the OEM camber bolts can definitely affect the toe-in/toe-out of your front wheels. If you install the bolts and use them to increase negative camber, then you will also increase toe-in. If you use the bolts to increase positive camber (not sure why you would do that...lol!), then you will get more toe-out. How much toe is affected will depend on much the camber changes relative to how you're aligned now.

Wepeel · 05-23-2014, 01:27 PM

In my experience the camber bolt changed the toe alignment very little, if at all. IMO definitely not enough to require another alignment. YMMV. Obviously, if you put them in and it drives oddly then you'll need to get it aligned.

BRZZZZZZZZZZ · 05-23-2014, 02:02 PM

Yes it will affect it.

B-R-Z · 05-23-2014, 02:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Wepeel

In my experience the camber bolt changed the toe alignment very little, if at all. IMO definitely not enough to require another alignment. YMMV. Obviously, if you put them in and it drives oddly then you'll need to get it aligned.

I don't think you'd notice a slight toe issue until you see bad tire wear, which is too late. I'll hold off until next year or so when I need another alignment.
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supramkivtt2jz · 05-23-2014, 02:21 PM

i had the alignment checked before and after. no change.

edit: for reference, i have rs-r superdowns

celica73 · 05-23-2014, 02:58 PM

The toe change with OEM camber bolts is pretty minimal. It will toe in slightly, but not enough to ruin tires. I think it was about 1/16" toe-in for each degree of camber added per side.

So, get the camber bolts, max negative camber and get 1/8" toe in.

B-R-Z · 05-23-2014, 05:41 PM

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Originally Posted by celica73

The toe change with OEM camber bolts is pretty minimal. It will toe in slightly, but not enough to ruin tires. I think it was about 1/16" toe-in for each degree of camber added per side.

So, get the camber bolts, max negative camber and get 1/8" toe in.

I actually had the bolts prior to the alignment but I just didn't have them put in, but now I'd like to get the extra camber. I might go for it for the minimal toe-in I'll end up with.

Here's my alignment results

calibrz · 05-23-2014, 06:19 PM

it woult last too long with oem bolts

troek · 05-24-2014, 12:30 AM

I have camber bolts installed in both holes, and rsr super downs. Drives strait, and no abnormal wear after a couple thousand kilometers.

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Wepeel Senior Member Join Date: May 2012 Drives: '13 BRZ Ltd Location: PA Posts: 458 Thanks: 265 Thanked 230 Times in 117 Posts Mentioned: 8 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	In my experience the camber bolt changed the toe alignment very little, if at all. IMO definitely not enough to require another alignment. YMMV. Obviously, if you put them in and it drives oddly then you'll need to get it aligned.

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celica73 Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2012 Drives: '13 BRZ / '11 Outback / '06 Tundra Location: Durham NC Posts: 510 Thanks: 6 Thanked 155 Times in 104 Posts Mentioned: 4 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	The toe change with OEM camber bolts is pretty minimal. It will toe in slightly, but not enough to ruin tires. I think it was about 1/16" toe-in for each degree of camber added per side. So, get the camber bolts, max negative camber and get 1/8" toe in.

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