Ridiculous insurance policy - Toyota GR86, 86, FR-S and Subaru BRZ Forum & Owners Community

Derickie · 04-15-2014, 03:22 PM

Hey folks,

My new Whiteout FRS is arriving in 2 weeks and the policy in Hong Kong says you need to purchase auto insurance in order to register the car before you can start driving.

Sounds like a simple task, get quotation from multiple insurance companies, lock down cheapest offer and sign up with them. But too bad life is never simple, after inquiring with over 10 insurance companies, only 1/2 of them are willing to insure the FRS.... at a hefty premium.

The funny thing is, none of them know what the heck a FRS is (it's called Toyota 86 here). Hi, I would like a quotation for the Toyota 86. What is that? Is it a Sedan? Hatchback? Toyota AE86? Sure you gave us the correct name?

So who are those 1/2 companies willing to insure the FRS? Yes you guessed correctly, it's Toyota (HK) and another small insurance company. The rest just replied me, sorry your car is beyond our company's risk level, wtf?

And for those willing to insure the FRS, comprehensive insurance cost 3 times more than my friend's brand new BMW 328 sport and that car is worth more.

Sorry guys but I am just ranting... When there are no other options, it feels like you are forced to pull a trigger at yourself. BOOM!

bluesman · 04-15-2014, 04:45 PM

I was surprised to find my FR-S with a higher rating than the 350Z I replaced here in the US. I thought that 100 fewer hp plus thousands less in original and replacement cost would mean lower premiums.

mav1178 · 04-15-2014, 05:26 PM

Want to know why premiums are higher on this car?

It is a brand new platform.

To an insurance company, the risk based on historical data is unknown. That's why it is more expensive to get insurance.

-alex

Tromatic · 04-15-2014, 05:30 PM

Mine went down. My history and demographics probably helped with that.

Quote:

Originally Posted by mav1178

Want to know why premiums are higher on this car?
It is a brand new platform.
To an insurance company, the risk based on historical data is unknown. That's why it is more expensive to get insurance.
-alex

And probably being crashed in large numbers in certain parts of the world.

Griever423 · 04-15-2014, 05:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mav1178

Want to know why premiums are higher on this car?

It is a brand new platform.

To an insurance company, the risk based on historical data is unknown. That's why it is more expensive to get insurance.

-alex

Age has the most to do with it. I'm paying maybe $15 more a month for a 2013 BRZ than I was for a 2011 nissan versa hatchback. 27 years old just for reference. One accident on record no tickets.

Also...OP is in Hong Kong so any comparison to anyone in the US is probably a bad one.

ProjectGT86 · 04-15-2014, 05:33 PM

wait you imported a FRS or a toyota 86?

mav1178 · 04-15-2014, 05:43 PM

My previous post is a generalization. If all else is equal, risk is compared with other sports coupes sold in the past, then adjusted as the insurance market changes.

-alex

wheelhaus · 04-15-2014, 06:18 PM

Did you import a FRS? Why not buy a GT86 locally? If you imported an FRS, it's likely a problem because the car isn't normally sold in that country...

The BRZ is one of the cheapest (new) cars I've ever insured.

subiestyle · 04-15-2014, 06:20 PM

Tell them its a Toyota Scion FRS.

Panda Mao · 04-15-2014, 06:23 PM

my insurance is dirt cheap on the frs (I pay about $140/month) I used to have a 350z years ago and the insurance was like $400/month maybe its cuz I'm older so they don't even care anymore?

Do you have to import the frs to HK? or is the care available domestically? All I know is its called GT86 or FT86 I think in the Asian markets.

Bailey · 04-15-2014, 07:16 PM

I went from an 03 wrx to a 13 frs and my insurance went up by $3 per month with Nationwide insurance, so I'm not sure the new platform makes a big difference in price.

Jyn · 04-15-2014, 07:20 PM

Get USAA if you are military?

TM · 04-15-2014, 07:24 PM

The model has been out for two years. While it is still relatively new, the excuse that the platform is "too new" for insurance companies to insure the car sounds like BS. Maybe the 86 is just not common in Hong Kong?

Have you tried to find others in HK with the car and compare your quote to their rates?

Side note: I'm going to be visiting HK for half a week in a couple of months! Any suggestions?

TM · 04-15-2014, 07:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jyn

Get USAA if you are military?

OP is from Hong Kong.

04-15-2014, 03:22 PM	#1
Derickie Member Join Date: Dec 2013 Drives: Whiteout 86 2014 Location: Hong Kong Posts: 48 Thanks: 3 Thanked 26 Times in 9 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Ridiculous insurance policy Hey folks, My new Whiteout FRS is arriving in 2 weeks and the policy in Hong Kong says you need to purchase auto insurance in order to register the car before you can start driving. Sounds like a simple task, get quotation from multiple insurance companies, lock down cheapest offer and sign up with them. But too bad life is never simple, after inquiring with over 10 insurance companies, only 1/2 of them are willing to insure the FRS.... at a hefty premium. The funny thing is, none of them know what the heck a FRS is (it's called Toyota 86 here). Hi, I would like a quotation for the Toyota 86. What is that? Is it a Sedan? Hatchback? Toyota AE86? Sure you gave us the correct name? So who are those 1/2 companies willing to insure the FRS? Yes you guessed correctly, it's Toyota (HK) and another small insurance company. The rest just replied me, sorry your car is beyond our company's risk level, wtf? And for those willing to insure the FRS, comprehensive insurance cost 3 times more than my friend's brand new BMW 328 sport and that car is worth more. Sorry guys but I am just ranting... When there are no other options, it feels like you are forced to pull a trigger at yourself. BOOM!

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bluesman Member Join Date: Mar 2014 Drives: 2015 FR-S Location: east coast Posts: 83 Thanks: 10 Thanked 51 Times in 26 Posts Mentioned: 1 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	I was surprised to find my FR-S with a higher rating than the 350Z I replaced here in the US. I thought that 100 fewer hp plus thousands less in original and replacement cost would mean lower premiums.

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mav1178 Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2013 Drives: 2005 Toyota Camry Location: 91745 Posts: 6,562 Thanks: 493 Thanked 6,099 Times in 3,030 Posts Mentioned: 95 Post(s) Tagged: 3 Thread(s)	Want to know why premiums are higher on this car? It is a brand new platform. To an insurance company, the risk based on historical data is unknown. That's why it is more expensive to get insurance. -alex

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mav1178 Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2013 Drives: 2005 Toyota Camry Location: 91745 Posts: 6,562 Thanks: 493 Thanked 6,099 Times in 3,030 Posts Mentioned: 95 Post(s) Tagged: 3 Thread(s)	My previous post is a generalization. If all else is equal, risk is compared with other sports coupes sold in the past, then adjusted as the insurance market changes. -alex

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wheelhaus Join Date: Jul 2012 Drives: 2013 BRZ, 2020 KTM Super Duke 1290R Location: Denver Posts: 1,788 Thanks: 714 Thanked 1,141 Times in 624 Posts Mentioned: 49 Post(s) Tagged: 1 Thread(s)	Did you import a FRS? Why not buy a GT86 locally? If you imported an FRS, it's likely a problem because the car isn't normally sold in that country... The BRZ is one of the cheapest (new) cars I've ever insured.

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