Ordered Swifts, will I need Camber Bolts? - Toyota GR86, 86, FR-S and Subaru BRZ Forum & Owners Community

F1fletch · 01-28-2014, 01:22 PM

Hi guys, after I lower (on swifts) and go for an alignment, what can I expect to see in negative camber up front? Will I need new bolts to get it even?

wparsons · 01-28-2014, 01:28 PM

What do you mean by "even"?

Do you want it back to zero, or do you want a bit of negative camber? IMO, you'll want a bit of negative to even out tire wear unless you don't drive it hard at all, then you'll be fine with 0*.

If you want 0, you'll likely need camber bolts. I don't think you'll have much negative with just the springs, but you'll definitely be slightly negative.

F1fletch · 01-28-2014, 01:35 PM

Thanks for the response, let me clarify. I meant even side to side. I def want some more neg camber in front, just not more than 2 degrees. I have heard you get a bit of wiggle room with the stock crash bolts but not much, this is why I was asking about adjustable bolts for the front.

anewprelusion · 01-28-2014, 02:42 PM

After installing Swifts, my front camber was -0.3 & -0.7. My alignment guy tried to even them out by adjusting the stock bolts, but couldn't really get much out of them. I had already bought camber bolts, but opted not to use them.

wparsons · 01-28-2014, 02:47 PM

Chances are you won't be able to get them matching without crash or camber bolts (which essentially do the same thing), or slotting the upper hole of the struts.

If you're good with around -0.5 and aren't worried if they aren't the same side to side you'll be fine with the stock bolts, but I would personally grab some camber bolts (or OEM crash bolts) to get things more exact with what you want.

hmong337 · 01-28-2014, 02:58 PM

If anything, it should be the static rear camber you should be worried about. The swift springs are only a 1" drop? If so, you should be fine in the rear from everybody i've talked to. I'd definitely get crash bolts for the front though.

anewprelusion · 01-28-2014, 03:06 PM

My rears were at -1.9 & -2.3. Installed LCA's to even that out.

ScionFR-S · 01-29-2014, 06:51 AM

Can someone post a link to proper camber bolts to get when going for an alignment to give to the mechanic???

F1fletch · 01-29-2014, 04:13 PM

I ordered the 14mm crash bolts from Subaru (they are cheaper than Scion's version). This should work well to even the front. I won't move on anything for the rear unless it is really uneven.

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01-28-2014, 01:35 PM	#3
F1fletch Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2014 Drives: 13 FR-S AT Location: Mountain House, Ca Posts: 374 Thanks: 67 Thanked 116 Times in 65 Posts Mentioned: 4 Post(s)	Thanks for the response, let me clarify. I meant even side to side. I def want some more neg camber in front, just not more than 2 degrees. I have heard you get a bit of wiggle room with the stock crash bolts but not much, this is why I was asking about adjustable bolts for the front.

01-28-2014, 02:42 PM	#4
anewprelusion Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2013 Drives: 2013 Subaru BRZ Limited Location: California Posts: 148 Thanks: 51 Thanked 86 Times in 46 Posts Mentioned: 8 Post(s)	After installing Swifts, my front camber was -0.3 & -0.7. My alignment guy tried to even them out by adjusting the stock bolts, but couldn't really get much out of them. I had already bought camber bolts, but opted not to use them.

01-28-2014, 03:06 PM	#7
anewprelusion Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2013 Drives: 2013 Subaru BRZ Limited Location: California Posts: 148 Thanks: 51 Thanked 86 Times in 46 Posts Mentioned: 8 Post(s)	My rears were at -1.9 & -2.3. Installed LCA's to even that out.

01-29-2014, 04:13 PM	#9
F1fletch Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2014 Drives: 13 FR-S AT Location: Mountain House, Ca Posts: 374 Thanks: 67 Thanked 116 Times in 65 Posts Mentioned: 4 Post(s)	I ordered the 14mm crash bolts from Subaru (they are cheaper than Scion's version). This should work well to even the front. I won't move on anything for the rear unless it is really uneven.

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