Looking at 2013 Used FR-S.....question - Toyota GR86, 86, FR-S and Subaru BRZ Forum & Owners Community

F1fletch · 01-19-2014, 12:51 PM

It has 11k on the clock and I am checking to see if the oil has ever been changed. I doubt it has and this is concerning me, by all appearances it was a commuter for 6 months. I have the vin, so I was going to call the dealer to see if they have a service record.

If the oil hasn't been changed how concerned should I be? Deal Breaker?

Decay107 · 01-19-2014, 03:35 PM

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Originally Posted by F1fletch

It has 11k on the clock and I am checking to see if the oil has ever been changed. I doubt it has and this is concerning me, by all appearances it was a commuter for 6 months. I have the vin, so I was going to call the dealer to see if they have a service record.

If the oil hasn't been changed how concerned should I be? Deal Breaker?

Why wouldn't the oil have been changed? Scion/Toyota will do it for free the first three times.

What is your time frame like? If you are in no rush, you could always send an oil sample to Blackstone and see if anything is floating around in there that shouldn't be.

F1fletch · 01-19-2014, 05:09 PM

We'll previous owners are an unknown quantity at times so no excuse for not taking advantage. I will call local dealer and ask about any service records. I assume the oil services are supposed to be done every 7500 right?

Decay107 · 01-19-2014, 07:29 PM

Yes that's the recommended service interval.

FReSh · 01-19-2014, 08:51 PM

Why not ask the previous owner if they changed it?

Tiremonkey0824 · 01-19-2014, 09:52 PM

You can call the dealer to verify, but what if the owner opted to change the oil themselves out of fear the dealer would take the car on a joy ride?

Captain Insano · 01-19-2014, 10:55 PM

Also the owner could lie and say they changed it. No I personally would not buy a car that had 11k miles on it if the oil had never been changed.

ZionsWrath · 01-19-2014, 11:01 PM

Sounds like you are a perfect candidate for buying a new car. There is no way to know the cars service history unless every single service was recorded by the dealer. Even invoices can be forged. If it is certified pre owned with the extra warranty, I don't see a problem. Just keep you own records from now on.

Byebye · 01-19-2014, 11:41 PM

If it's a trade in the dealer should change the oil when they get it so that you think it's been done regularly. Clean oil must mean proper maintenance right?

Is the price difference worth it to you? Honestly 11k miles an no oil change isn't much. It's the oil level that I would be more concerned with. Dirty topped off oil is better than dirty not topped off oil. If it's clear then you would never know.

And the service records are only good if they used the free oil changes or used a dealer for the regular maintenance. I do my own personally because I don't want anyone else touching my car.

AVodka14 · 01-20-2014, 12:08 AM

How much money are you saving by going used? If it's 5 grand of difference between used and new. Spend the extra money and buy a new one. You will be the one to break in the car. That's the beauty of going new. The damn thing is so new you can indeed find excellent used ones. Yet this is my second new car and there is nothing like knowing you are the only one that has been behind the steering wheel for any lengthy period of time.

N1rve · 01-20-2014, 06:29 AM

I wouldn't buy one of these cars used.... you want to be the one who broke it in properly.

swift996 · 01-20-2014, 12:09 PM

I wouldn't be drastically over-concerned. There's no reliable facts on "breaking one of these cars in."

Personally, I don't like to buy cars from idiots, if they don't take care of basic things, what else don't they do? Perhaps drop crap fuel in it? IDK, just speculating, it amazes me people neglect their cars so much. In all reality though a few thousand miles over isn't going to cause any real damage.

F1fletch · 01-20-2014, 05:42 PM

Thanks guys, I should have resolution on an FRS by Sat. I have to go used because of financing so my hands are tied a bit. Looking at a couple of them so looking for all the signs of well taken care of .

01-19-2014, 12:51 PM	#1
F1fletch Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2014 Drives: 13 FR-S AT Location: Mountain House, Ca Posts: 374 Thanks: 67 Thanked 116 Times in 65 Posts Mentioned: 4 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Looking at 2013 Used FR-S.....question It has 11k on the clock and I am checking to see if the oil has ever been changed. I doubt it has and this is concerning me, by all appearances it was a commuter for 6 months. I have the vin, so I was going to call the dealer to see if they have a service record. If the oil hasn't been changed how concerned should I be? Deal Breaker?

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01-19-2014, 11:41 PM	#9
Byebye Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2012 Drives: 2013 FR-S Location: Springfield, Va Posts: 168 Thanks: 98 Thanked 50 Times in 33 Posts Mentioned: 2 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	If it's a trade in the dealer should change the oil when they get it so that you think it's been done regularly. Clean oil must mean proper maintenance right? Is the price difference worth it to you? Honestly 11k miles an no oil change isn't much. It's the oil level that I would be more concerned with. Dirty topped off oil is better than dirty not topped off oil. If it's clear then you would never know. And the service records are only good if they used the free oil changes or used a dealer for the regular maintenance. I do my own personally because I don't want anyone else touching my car. Last edited by Byebye; 01-20-2014 at 06:40 AM.

01-20-2014, 12:09 PM	#12
swift996 Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2011 Drives: Subaru BRZ Limited 6MT Location: Winston-Salem, NC Posts: 2,432 Thanks: 712 Thanked 955 Times in 545 Posts Mentioned: 47 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	I wouldn't be drastically over-concerned. There's no reliable facts on "breaking one of these cars in." Personally, I don't like to buy cars from idiots, if they don't take care of basic things, what else don't they do? Perhaps drop crap fuel in it? IDK, just speculating, it amazes me people neglect their cars so much. In all reality though a few thousand miles over isn't going to cause any real damage. __________________ Innovate Supercharged Black Limited BRZ 6-Speed MT(Build Thread) 2010 Cadillac CTS-V Sedan M6 w/550whp (Build Thread)

01-19-2014, 05:09 PM	#3
F1fletch Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2014 Drives: 13 FR-S AT Location: Mountain House, Ca Posts: 374 Thanks: 67 Thanked 116 Times in 65 Posts Mentioned: 4 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	We'll previous owners are an unknown quantity at times so no excuse for not taking advantage. I will call local dealer and ask about any service records. I assume the oil services are supposed to be done every 7500 right?

01-19-2014, 10:55 PM	#7
Captain Insano Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2012 Drives: 2014 Jeep Wrangler RubiconX Location: Midwest, USA Posts: 1,282 Thanks: 110 Thanked 292 Times in 224 Posts Mentioned: 7 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Also the owner could lie and say they changed it. No I personally would not buy a car that had 11k miles on it if the oil had never been changed.

01-19-2014, 11:01 PM	#8
ZionsWrath Thanks Join Date: Apr 2013 Drives: BRZ Location: NY Posts: 4,163 Thanks: 5,989 Thanked 3,100 Times in 1,498 Posts Mentioned: 38 Post(s) Tagged: 3 Thread(s)	Sounds like you are a perfect candidate for buying a new car. There is no way to know the cars service history unless every single service was recorded by the dealer. Even invoices can be forged. If it is certified pre owned with the extra warranty, I don't see a problem. Just keep you own records from now on.

01-20-2014, 12:08 AM	#10
AVodka14 Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2012 Drives: 2013 Raven FRS MT Location: KY Posts: 857 Thanks: 351 Thanked 302 Times in 185 Posts Mentioned: 4 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	How much money are you saving by going used? If it's 5 grand of difference between used and new. Spend the extra money and buy a new one. You will be the one to break in the car. That's the beauty of going new. The damn thing is so new you can indeed find excellent used ones. Yet this is my second new car and there is nothing like knowing you are the only one that has been behind the steering wheel for any lengthy period of time.

01-20-2014, 06:29 AM	#11
N1rve Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2013 Drives: 2019 BMW ///M4 Location: Los Angeles, CA Posts: 2,332 Thanks: 102 Thanked 1,167 Times in 714 Posts Mentioned: 28 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	I wouldn't buy one of these cars used.... you want to be the one who broke it in properly.

01-20-2014, 05:42 PM	#13
F1fletch Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2014 Drives: 13 FR-S AT Location: Mountain House, Ca Posts: 374 Thanks: 67 Thanked 116 Times in 65 Posts Mentioned: 4 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Thanks guys, I should have resolution on an FRS by Sat. I have to go used because of financing so my hands are tied a bit. Looking at a couple of them so looking for all the signs of well taken care of .

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