What makes all the BRZ/86/FRS drivers smile? - Toyota GR86, 86, FR-S and Subaru BRZ Forum & Owners Community

ayau · 03-30-2012, 05:20 PM

It seems like all the reviewers are raving about how this car puts a smile on your face when you drive it.

What do you think causes this? Is there some sort of special driver smiling formula? Is it putting skinny tires on a non-overpowered NA motor, or maybe having a really low center of gravity?

If that's the case, then should all car makers take notes?

What are your thoughts?

zoomzoomers · 03-30-2012, 05:25 PM

Since the answer to your question is purely subjective, I can't say I have the answer to it. I know what it is for me. IMO, it is being in complete control of my environment/vehicle/etc. I've driven some very expensive cars in my time and most times I felt like it was more in control than I was. Well, the fact that some of them would cost a good down payment on a seven figure house helped with that too.

I've driven some econoboxes that, although were way underpowered, gave me the sensation of being in control. I might have been shielded from communicating with the road quite a bit, but nonetheless I felt like I was in control of the car instead of it me. So I think the fact that this car gives that feeling of control to the driver is what puts that smile on their faces.

serialk11r · 03-30-2012, 05:25 PM

I think you technically can't feel center of gravity since body roll is a function of suspension and center of gravity, but the car has decent grip from what we've heard, so that's probably part of it, along with the way the suspension is set up.

The rest is I'm guessing sensory stuff like feel of the steering/pedals, response, seating position.

Dadhawk · 03-30-2012, 05:55 PM

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Originally Posted by ayau

It seems like all the reviewers are raving about how this car puts a smile on your face when you drive it.

What do you think causes this? Is there some sort of special driver smiling formula? Is it putting skinny tires on a non-overpowered NA motor, or maybe having a really low center of gravity?

If that's the case, then should all car makers take notes?

What are your thoughts?

This has been mentioned before, but for me its the same feeling you get from driving a decent powered go-cart with the throttle all the way down. You know you're on the edge, but that it's perfectly safe and you're in control. You're slung low in the seat, the backend isn't always following the front, and you just can't help but smile.

Lighting Red · 03-30-2012, 06:01 PM

That smile is caused by kick-backs from Subaru/Toyta for positive reviews.

ubersoph · 03-30-2012, 06:06 PM

It's a miata thing

MikeNSX · 03-30-2012, 08:27 PM

They are most likely smiling due to the little known "butt massaging seat" option that hasn't been talked about that much so far.

dookie11 · 03-31-2012, 02:06 AM

It's the front bumper grill design that makes us smile. Cuz it looks like a smile

merlin2111 · 03-31-2012, 03:03 AM

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Originally Posted by ubersoph

It's a miata thing

carbonBLUE · 03-31-2012, 04:37 AM

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Originally Posted by serialk11r

I think you technically can't feel center of gravity since body roll is a function of suspension and center of gravity, but the car has decent grip from what we've heard, so that's probably part of it, along with the way the suspension is set up.

The rest is I'm guessing sensory stuff like feel of the steering/pedals, response, seating position.

you can tell the difference in CoG and the brz is really low, its lower than my celica for sure, or from what i felt at least, get in a van and take a corner at 30 then do it in a car and youll feel the CoG difference

fatoni · 03-31-2012, 04:41 AM

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Originally Posted by carbonBLUE

you can tell the difference in CoG and the brz is really low, its lower than my celica for sure, or from what i felt at least, get in a van and take a corner at 30 then do it in a car and youll feel the CoG difference

No you can't. The cog is lower in my miata and you can't feel it in that

Turbowned · 03-31-2012, 10:23 AM

It's because they're used to driving heavy, powerful cars with a zillion electronic driver aids to drive the car for them. Ones that if you go full throttle you'll either end up dead or in jail. Then when you get into a light, tossable car that you have to keep your foot in to get the most out of, it's a real joy and a breath of fresh air!

See: Miata, MR2, BMW 2002 and any old Brit roadsters

S2kphile · 03-31-2012, 11:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Turbowned

It's because they're used to driving heavy, powerful cars with a zillion electronic driver aids to drive the car for them. Ones that if you go full throttle you'll either end up dead or in jail. Then when you get into a light, tossable car that you have to keep your foot in to get the most out of, it's a real joy and a breath of fresh air!

See: Miata, MR2, BMW 2002 and any old Brit roadsters

MiguelAE86 · 03-31-2012, 12:34 PM

It's because they finally get to drive the car.

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