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ayau 03-30-2012 05:20 PM

What makes all the BRZ/86/FRS drivers smile?
 
It seems like all the reviewers are raving about how this car puts a smile on your face when you drive it.

What do you think causes this? Is there some sort of special driver smiling formula? Is it putting skinny tires on a non-overpowered NA motor, or maybe having a really low center of gravity?

If that's the case, then should all car makers take notes?

What are your thoughts?

zoomzoomers 03-30-2012 05:25 PM

Since the answer to your question is purely subjective, I can't say I have the answer to it. I know what it is for me. IMO, it is being in complete control of my environment/vehicle/etc. I've driven some very expensive cars in my time and most times I felt like it was more in control than I was. Well, the fact that some of them would cost a good down payment on a seven figure house helped with that too. :D

I've driven some econoboxes that, although were way underpowered, gave me the sensation of being in control. I might have been shielded from communicating with the road quite a bit, but nonetheless I felt like I was in control of the car instead of it me. So I think the fact that this car gives that feeling of control to the driver is what puts that smile on their faces.

serialk11r 03-30-2012 05:25 PM

I think you technically can't feel center of gravity since body roll is a function of suspension and center of gravity, but the car has decent grip from what we've heard, so that's probably part of it, along with the way the suspension is set up.

The rest is I'm guessing sensory stuff like feel of the steering/pedals, response, seating position.

Dadhawk 03-30-2012 05:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ayau (Post 170221)
It seems like all the reviewers are raving about how this car puts a smile on your face when you drive it.

What do you think causes this? Is there some sort of special driver smiling formula? Is it putting skinny tires on a non-overpowered NA motor, or maybe having a really low center of gravity?

If that's the case, then should all car makers take notes?

What are your thoughts?

This has been mentioned before, but for me its the same feeling you get from driving a decent powered go-cart with the throttle all the way down. You know you're on the edge, but that it's perfectly safe and you're in control. You're slung low in the seat, the backend isn't always following the front, and you just can't help but smile.

Lighting Red 03-30-2012 06:01 PM

That smile is caused by kick-backs from Subaru/Toyta for positive reviews. :D

ubersoph 03-30-2012 06:06 PM

It's a miata thing ;)

MikeNSX 03-30-2012 08:27 PM

They are most likely smiling due to the little known "butt massaging seat" option that hasn't been talked about that much so far.

dookie11 03-31-2012 02:06 AM

It's the front bumper grill design that makes us smile. Cuz it looks like a smile :)

merlin2111 03-31-2012 03:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ubersoph (Post 170285)
It's a miata thing ;)

:bellyroll: :party0030: :happyanim: :party0030: :bellyroll:

carbonBLUE 03-31-2012 04:37 AM

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Originally Posted by serialk11r (Post 170229)
I think you technically can't feel center of gravity since body roll is a function of suspension and center of gravity, but the car has decent grip from what we've heard, so that's probably part of it, along with the way the suspension is set up.

The rest is I'm guessing sensory stuff like feel of the steering/pedals, response, seating position.

you can tell the difference in CoG and the brz is really low, its lower than my celica for sure, or from what i felt at least, get in a van and take a corner at 30 then do it in a car and youll feel the CoG difference

fatoni 03-31-2012 04:41 AM

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Originally Posted by carbonBLUE (Post 170672)
you can tell the difference in CoG and the brz is really low, its lower than my celica for sure, or from what i felt at least, get in a van and take a corner at 30 then do it in a car and youll feel the CoG difference

No you can't. The cog is lower in my miata and you can't feel it in that

Turbowned 03-31-2012 10:23 AM

It's because they're used to driving heavy, powerful cars with a zillion electronic driver aids to drive the car for them. Ones that if you go full throttle you'll either end up dead or in jail. Then when you get into a light, tossable car that you have to keep your foot in to get the most out of, it's a real joy and a breath of fresh air!

See: Miata, MR2, BMW 2002 and any old Brit roadsters

S2kphile 03-31-2012 11:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Turbowned (Post 170759)
It's because they're used to driving heavy, powerful cars with a zillion electronic driver aids to drive the car for them. Ones that if you go full throttle you'll either end up dead or in jail. Then when you get into a light, tossable car that you have to keep your foot in to get the most out of, it's a real joy and a breath of fresh air!

See: Miata, MR2, BMW 2002 and any old Brit roadsters

:word:

MiguelAE86 03-31-2012 12:34 PM

It's because they finally get to drive the car.


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