follow ft86club on our blog, twitter or facebook.
FT86CLUB
Ft86Club
Delicious Tuning
Register Garage Community Calendar Today's Posts Search

Go Back   Toyota GR86, 86, FR-S and Subaru BRZ Forum & Owners Community - FT86CLUB > Technical Topics > Engine, Exhaust, Transmission

Engine, Exhaust, Transmission Discuss the FR-S | 86 | BRZ engine, exhaust and drivetrain.

Register and become an FT86Club.com member. You will see fewer ads

User Tag List

Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Old 04-21-2013, 10:34 PM   #1
Sniper2606
Senior Member
 
Sniper2606's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2013
Drives: 2013 BRZ
Location: OKC, OK
Posts: 677
Thanks: 159
Thanked 221 Times in 138 Posts
Mentioned: 6 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Getting a BRZ tmw, worry about CEL

All

So its been almost a year since the BRZ/FRS came out and i been following very closely on the CEL issue and it makes me wonder if a year later Subaru has address the issue with the newer models, i checked Carfax with VIN # on the BRZ im getting it shows 2 records not sure what exactly, will ask the dealer tmw.

What do you guys think? should i wait or give it a try?

I just dont wanna mod the car with exhaust, pipe, headers and have that CEL come up and have the dealer blame the mods.

Thanks
Sniper2606 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-21-2013, 10:56 PM   #2
Pandle
Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2012
Drives: CBS BRZ
Location: Washington
Posts: 84
Thanks: 9
Thanked 16 Times in 11 Posts
Mentioned: 5 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
I've had my brz since january and over 5000 miles on the car with no cel issues. I don't think it's something you're going to have to worry about.
__________________
All kinds of gains....
Pandle is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-21-2013, 11:01 PM   #3
Lonewolf
Senior Member
 
Lonewolf's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2011
Drives: Moped
Location: CA
Posts: 4,300
Thanks: 4,905
Thanked 2,132 Times in 1,195 Posts
Mentioned: 21 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by Sniper2606 View Post
All

So its been almost a year since the BRZ/FRS came out and i been following very closely on the CEL issue and it makes me wonder if a year later Subaru has address the issue with the newer models, i checked Carfax with VIN # on the BRZ im getting it shows 2 records not sure what exactly, will ask the dealer tmw.

What do you guys think? should i wait or give it a try?

I just dont wanna mod the car with exhaust, pipe, headers and have that CEL come up and have the dealer blame the mods.

Thanks
Check the build date on the car. If your car was built after January 2013, you should be in the clear. If you'll notice, the CEL thread (where people needed a new ECU, cam gears, and/or a reflash to make the CEL go away) has died down considerably over the past few months, and it is quite rare to see someone with a Feb. 2013 build date or later have the CEL problem pop up.

You should also have the dealer also make sure that there are no open campaigns, recalls, tsb's for your particular vin range.

Break-in the car and change the oil and drive it a bit more, and if all is still well...then you should be clear to start the breathing mods...

If you also want some more peace of mind, know that a dealer can't refuse to do warranty work just because you have modifications (Magnusson-Moss Warranty Act). The CEL problem was well-documented
even among stock cars so a dealer doesn't really have much of a leg to stand on when it comes to minor breathing mods (intake/exhaust).
Lonewolf is offline   Reply With Quote
The Following User Says Thank You to Lonewolf For This Useful Post:
wootwoot (04-22-2013)
Old 04-21-2013, 11:04 PM   #4
Sniper2606
Senior Member
 
Sniper2606's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2013
Drives: 2013 BRZ
Location: OKC, OK
Posts: 677
Thanks: 159
Thanked 221 Times in 138 Posts
Mentioned: 6 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by Pandle View Post
I've had my brz since january and over 5000 miles on the car with no cel issues. I don't think it's something you're going to have to worry about.

I was very optimistic until today, i seen a huge huge list of people with CEL issues on here

"At low RPMs, an issue is causing the cars to shudder, idle rough, and in some cases stall. And it isn't five or ten cars. FT86 Club has 121 owners listed that have experienced the issue, which means it is probably apparent on more cars that aren't owned by forum members"

Not sure at this point
Sniper2606 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-21-2013, 11:11 PM   #5
gusbarragan
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2012
Drives: 2013 Scion FRS
Location: Macon, GA
Posts: 150
Thanks: 38
Thanked 76 Times in 32 Posts
Mentioned: 4 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Garage
had mine since september, 7,000 miles. no problems.
gusbarragan is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-21-2013, 11:20 PM   #6
Gords_zenith
Senior Member
 
Gords_zenith's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2012
Drives: WRB BRZ Sport Tech
Location: Durham, Canada
Posts: 354
Thanks: 178
Thanked 110 Times in 64 Posts
Mentioned: 3 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Owned mine since July, VIN 18xx. Nearly 23000 KM and no engine related issues! Mind you I did a moderate-(didn't baby it per say, but also didn't redline it) break in and changed the oil at 1800 km which is a little over the break in period. I think you will be fine. Good luck.
Gords_zenith is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-21-2013, 11:22 PM   #7
Lonewolf
Senior Member
 
Lonewolf's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2011
Drives: Moped
Location: CA
Posts: 4,300
Thanks: 4,905
Thanked 2,132 Times in 1,195 Posts
Mentioned: 21 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
[QUOTE=Sniper2606;881837]I was very optimistic until today, i seen a huge huge list of people with CEL issues on here

"At low RPMs, an issue is causing the cars to shudder, idle rough, and in some cases stall. And it isn't five or ten cars. FT86 Club has 121 owners listed that have experienced the issue, which means it is probably apparent on more cars that aren't owned by forum members"

Most of those issues were from early and mid 2012 build dates also...
Lonewolf is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-21-2013, 11:24 PM   #8
Sniper2606
Senior Member
 
Sniper2606's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2013
Drives: 2013 BRZ
Location: OKC, OK
Posts: 677
Thanks: 159
Thanked 221 Times in 138 Posts
Mentioned: 6 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by Lonewolf View Post
Check the build date on the car. If your car was built after January 2013, you should be in the clear. If you'll notice, the CEL thread (where people needed a new ECU, cam gears, and/or a reflash to make the CEL go away) has died down considerably over the past few months, and it is quite rare to see someone with a Feb. 2013 build date or later have the CEL problem pop up.

You should also have the dealer also make sure that there are no open campaigns, recalls, tsb's for your particular vin range.

Break-in the car and change the oil and drive it a bit more, and if all is still well...then you should be clear to start the breathing mods...

If you also want some more peace of mind, know that a dealer can't refuse to do warranty work just because you have modifications (Magnusson-Moss Warranty Act). The CEL problem was well-documented
even among stock cars so a dealer doesn't really have much of a leg to stand on when it comes to minor breathing mods (intake/exhaust).

Im a bit relief now, seeing all the replies, will def check with dealer tmw.

Coming from a 2011 STI with countless mods and never had a single issue.

Just wanna be on the safe side.
Sniper2606 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-21-2013, 11:26 PM   #9
Silverdub
Boostin'
 
Silverdub's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2012
Drives: FRS-T
Location: Montreal
Posts: 1,042
Thanks: 337
Thanked 489 Times in 241 Posts
Mentioned: 4 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by Sniper2606 View Post
I was very optimistic until today, i seen a huge huge list of people with CEL issues on here

"At low RPMs, an issue is causing the cars to shudder, idle rough, and in some cases stall. And it isn't five or ten cars. FT86 Club has 121 owners listed that have experienced the issue, which means it is probably apparent on more cars that aren't owned by forum members"

Not sure at this point
121 out of what a million unit built, i wouldnt worry at all.. mine was built april 2012, no issues so far, heck it runs awesome with the maf unplugged
Silverdub is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-21-2013, 11:30 PM   #10
jshadeck
Senior Member
 
jshadeck's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2012
Drives: 2013 Scion FR-S Whiteout 6MT
Location: carlisle, pa
Posts: 773
Thanks: 3
Thanked 221 Times in 163 Posts
Mentioned: 9 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
A million? Lol
__________________
jshadeck is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-21-2013, 11:40 PM   #11
Kimsey47
Senior Member
 
Kimsey47's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2012
Drives: 2016 STI DGM
Location: Chattanooga, TN
Posts: 1,875
Thanks: 1,189
Thanked 1,460 Times in 662 Posts
Mentioned: 9 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Hey, it sounds like the warranty support has been great so I wouldn't fret it... I'm about to cross the 15,000 mile mark this week and got one the first BRZ in my local area (31 May 2012). She's had no mechanical issues, and other than that just has what appears to be normal Subaru interior rattles, and the factory head unit sucking ass!

Enjoy your car bro! I LOVE MY BRZ! Always leaves me smiling!
__________________
Subaru STI :
Kimsey47 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-22-2013, 12:07 AM   #12
ngabdala
Vortech Supercharged
 
Join Date: Apr 2012
Drives: WRB BRZ 6MT LTD
Location: Massachusetts
Posts: 1,447
Thanks: 1,897
Thanked 467 Times in 283 Posts
Mentioned: 14 Post(s)
Tagged: 1 Thread(s)
10,488 miles no CEL
__________________
Powered by Vortech, ECS Tuning, and JDL Auto Design
ngabdala is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-22-2013, 12:15 AM   #13
Sniper2606
Senior Member
 
Sniper2606's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2013
Drives: 2013 BRZ
Location: OKC, OK
Posts: 677
Thanks: 159
Thanked 221 Times in 138 Posts
Mentioned: 6 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Well after all the replies i went ahead and made my journal, just waiting on tmw to get my BRzlowww.

Hopefully no issues pop up

http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=34380
Sniper2606 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-22-2013, 12:25 AM   #14
J MaM 86
Automotive Technician
 
J MaM 86's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2012
Drives: AE92 GTS & Asphalt FR-S 6MT
Location: Central Florida
Posts: 53
Thanks: 21
Thanked 15 Times in 13 Posts
Mentioned: 1 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Garage
Had my car since December and no CEL. 4000 miles and I've been beating the living crap out of it for about 3000 miles.
__________________
http://www.ft86club.com/forums/image.php?type=sigpic&userid=8787&dateline=1331758  628
J MaM 86 is offline   Reply With Quote
 
Reply


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Do you worry about scratches under the front bumper? Liquidsnake Cosmetic Maintenance (Wash, Wax, Detailing, Body Repairs) 57 05-06-2015 08:11 PM
A worry I have; Is it too good? Draco-REX BRZ First-Gen (2012+) — General Topics 29 11-21-2012 09:12 PM
Kinda make me worry! (Radiation related thing) EJ20 Off-Topic Lounge [WARNING: NO POLITICS] 32 05-09-2011 01:58 AM


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 06:15 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2026, vBulletin Solutions Inc.
User Alert System provided by Advanced User Tagging v3.3.0 (Lite) - vBulletin Mods & Addons Copyright © 2026 DragonByte Technologies Ltd.

Garage vBulletin Plugins by Drive Thru Online, Inc.