BFGoodrich g-Force Rival faster than Direzza II? - Toyota GR86, 86, FR-S and Subaru BRZ Forum & Owners Community

ayau · 01-22-2013, 05:23 PM

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Originally Posted by AndyHollis
Here today for the launch of the new BFGoodrich g-Force Rival. Got 10 laps back to back between this and the new Dunlop on an MX5 Cup car. Full second faster on the Rival, which was much easier to drive at the limit. Very forgiving. Z2 was much more peaky with a narrow window at the limit. Rival also loves to make noise. — at NOLA Motorsports Park.

Source: http://forum.miata.net/vb/showthread...93#post6155793

coyote · 01-22-2013, 07:03 PM

OrbitalEllipses · 01-22-2013, 07:39 PM

A G-force tire that loves to make noise; sounds familiar.

Road noise isn't a concern for people running these tires, but communicating limits of grip through tire squeal is.

GTB/ZR-1 · 01-22-2013, 09:02 PM

And another one joins the streetie fray...

MTCRX · 01-22-2013, 09:07 PM

So we need someone to make the sacrifice, buy these and try them out at autocross and get back to us on their performance. I would but snow delays yr season. Any one down south ready for this? Your sacrifice will be appreciated.

GTB/ZR-1 · 01-22-2013, 09:38 PM

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Originally Posted by MTCRX

So we need someone to make the sacrifice, buy these

Unobtanium right now.

Reminds me of the old V700 Victoracer look--kinda.

xwd · 01-22-2013, 09:45 PM

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Originally Posted by MTCRX

So we need someone to make the sacrifice, buy these and try them out at autocross and get back to us on their performance. I would but snow delays yr season. Any one down south ready for this? Your sacrifice will be appreciated.

There are a few who were asked to test these along with the new star specs down in New Orleans. These BFGs seemed to wear better and perform better than anything else from the feedback given. They do look like they would not be great in the wet. Tire Rack will have them on their website tomorrow, little more than the new star specs.

ayau · 01-23-2013, 02:12 AM

They're on TireRack now.

http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires....odClar=Limited

GTB/ZR-1 · 01-23-2013, 08:42 AM

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Originally Posted by ayau

They're on TireRack now.

http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires....odClar=Limited

May(!) availability for the 245s...

OrbitalEllipses · 01-23-2013, 10:07 AM

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Originally Posted by GTB/ZR-1

May(!) availability for the 245s...

It'll lose sales to the Z2 on that alone. Once both are available it'll be interesting to see which becomes the flavor of the month tire.

7thgear · 01-23-2013, 10:23 AM

189.00 for a 245x17? Not bad.

kanundrum · 01-23-2013, 10:29 AM

255/40R17 They have a good size for me, once I find my wheels I wouldn't mind testing.

celica73 · 01-23-2013, 11:52 AM

Unless the tires or rules change, these will not be legal for the SCCA street tires classes (ST* or RT*). The rules stipulate >7/32 tread depth when new. These are speced at 7/32. BFG is going to have to scramble...

Maybe they can change the specs to 15/64th.

Edit: Might be fine as-is for RT, the RT rules might not have a tread depth statement like ST.

ayau · 01-23-2013, 12:26 PM

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Originally Posted by celica73

Unless the tires or rules change, these will not be legal for the SCCA street tires classes (ST* or RT*). The rules stipulate >7/32 tread depth when new. These are speced at 7/32. BFG is going to have to scramble...

Maybe they can change the specs to 15/64th.

Edit: Might be fine as-is for RT, the RT rules might not have a tread depth statement like ST.

Nice catch! I can't imagine that BFG would overlook something as simple as tread depth requirements.

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